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Admiral_Thrawn60
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6/4/02 10:51pm
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Too bad we couldn't nuke them before they do it to us.
The problem with a war on terrorism is that your enemies could be anyone, anywhere. And, I think countries frown upon people nuking an entire country to kill one suspected terrorist.
There's really nothing that can be done except costly security, which is exactly what the terrorist are trying to force you to do. The situation's a real bugger, I tell you.
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DarthTunick
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Admiral, i know NYC & DC are the primary targets, but that doesn't make L.A. immune. we are the 2nd largest city in the U.S., & we've got the Hollywood sign, Capitol Records, the crowded freeways, Univeral City Walk & the upcoming Lakers games. i really, really hate to say this, but there is a bunch of areas for terrorists to attack here & that's what i'm afraid of. the Hollywood sign might not seem like much a loss, but god forbid if terrorists were to crash a plane from LAX into that hillside on a hot, dry day, there will be a massive wildfire that will most likely destroy the sign, & burn most of the hillside.
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YodaJeff
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6/5/02 1:20am
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I hope that there is never another nuclear attack. Anywhere. Any time that a civilian has to die, just because he or she went to work in the morning, is a tragedy.
I think that if there is a nuclear attack in the US, it won't be as large as the US attacks on Japan. I agree with those above, who stated that LA, NY, and DC were probably the three largest risks. I also think that Florida could be considered a risk. What is in Florida, that represents the freedoms Americans have? Disney World. Just about every child has dreamed of going to Disney World, and a lot of them get to live out that dream. Another possible target could be Mount Rushmore. Perhaps not so much with a nuclear attack, but an attack of any type. Any place that symbolizes what it is to be an American could be next.
Hopefully, we won't ever see another nuclear attack. If anyone attacks the US with a nuclear weapon, I think the US would retaliate with nuclear weaponry. Before long, mankind would be a thing of the past. Nuclear weapons are a strong tool. Hopefully, they'll never need to be used again.
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ArtificialStupidity
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6/5/02 5:35am
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It is a possibility - yet I suggest you to not paint devils into the walls surrounding you. Perhaps the fear that is caused by the thread of a Nuclear raid represents the reaction Terrorists want to see.
I would not limit the possible targets for a Nuclear attack into three multi-million cities in America. Europe could be attacked as well - and the main targets in European soil would be Bryssel, Berlin ( in Germany ) and London ( in Great Britain ). Terrorists are very unpredictable - they have surprised us once, and they could surprise us again.
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Valyn
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Tunick: "i'm scared to death that if there is another terrorist attack, it's going to be here in Los Angeles."
Yeah, and I live in Orlando. We had a terrorist warning on our water a few weeks ago. 
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Admiral_Thrawn60
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the Hollywood sign might not seem like much a loss, but god forbid if terrorists were to crash a plane from LAX into that hillside on a hot, dry day, there will be a massive wildfire that will most likely destroy the sign, & burn most of the hillside.
I don't think there's anything to worry about there. If a terrorist hijacks a plane heading out of LAX, they're much more likely to crash it into the tallest LA building than they are a sign on a hilltop. Sure, it's a landmark, but they'd still be wiser to choose the building, and they're not stupid.
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obi-wannabe1
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i think there's a good chance of it happening (could even be very soon).
the terrorists aren't afraid of us. they are hiding all over the world. if they strike at us, there is no clear enemy to strike back at. as soon as they get a bomb and find a safe way to get into the country, you can be sure that they will use it.
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Lord_Fett
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6/5/02 9:41am
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Let me giv you some europeen perspective:when the WTC went down a lot of guys here started making jokes(like-do you know what a tower said to the other?It´s see you down there).Besides I know people that always said that a big terrorist attack in U.S. would be inevitable.
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Cheveyo
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6/5/02 3:16pm
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I'm morbidly curious to see what the world response would be to a nuclear attack on US soil. Would they still say we deserved it? Would they still jeer the members of NATO for joining with the US?
To what extent will the world accept US fatalities as our "come-uppin's"? At what point will everyone stop and think, "Hey, this is dangerous to me, too."?
I think a nuclear attack on US soil is a sadly probable. The mindset of modern terrorists prove they are willing to do anything at any cost. How do you prevent that? How do you fight it??
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DarthTunick
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6/5/02 4:02pm
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Admiral, i guess you're right. the tallest building here is Library Tower, & it's 75 stories tall, which is about 1018 ft. high.
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fn_clone
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Just out of curiosity, how much damage would a nuclear weapon detonated on the ground actually do? I know that to get the most out of a nuclear weapon, it must be detonated some distance above ground level. How much more/less damage would a nuclear explosion on ground level be compared to one that detonated above ground level.
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CUBIE_HOLE
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fn_clone, it's hard to tell how much damage would be caused, because it also depends on how powerful(the yield) of the weapon is.
The bombs dropped on Japan were about 20 kilotons roughly. If I remember correctly, they completely destroyed about a 4 square mile area, but like you said, they were detonated in the air.
Of course today, such weapons are much more powerful. The US has tested bombs that measure into the 20 megaton range, and at one point, the USSR claimed they had tested a 100 megaton bomb. To give a sense of the power, the 100 megaton bomb would leave a crater that had like a mile diameter, and was either 100 or 300 feet deep(sorry, I can't remember exactly).
Put more simply:
1 kiloton = 1,000 tons of TNT
1 megaton = 1,000,000 tons of TNT
In reality, if such people were able to get the materials to make such weapons, I still don't think they could make a high yield weapon. At best, or worst depending how you look at it, their bomb would probably create an area of complete destruction with a diameter of 1 or 2 miles, with the devastion becoming less the further out you go.
Also, I'm assuming if there was a bomb, it would probably be a fission bomb. A fission bomb is relatively easy to make. The hardest part is really getting the plutonium or uranium. Fission bombs(A-bomb) aren't weak by any means, but they're nothing when compared to fusion bombs(H-bomb), and luckily, fusion bombs are harder to make, so I figure at best, these people could only make some sort of weak, crude fission bomb, but I still have my doubts about that.
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tenorjedi
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That's the reason why NYC Washington DC or LA are the biggest targets. Because their bombs would be small in comparison to what we imagine a nuke to be. With a small detonation they could kill the most people and the most famous or influencial people than anywhere else in the country.
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Coolguy4522
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Not inevitable, but I would say it is very likely.
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citizen-tom
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I dont think terrorists will stirke NYC or DC or LA. Why? Because you guys are saying thats where it gonna happen. Terrorists like to suprise. They want to do something that your not expecting. This is about as far as i can get into the evil mind of a terrorist. But i would push some fear in the way of a Boston or Philadelphia.
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