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How is America the most powerful country in the world?
Cheveyo
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Oct '01
Date Posted:
7/4/02 4:49pm
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RE: How is America the most powerful country in the world?
It's funny how history is taught. We learned way back when everything you did about the war of 1812; about the invasion south to Washington, DC, about the burning down of the White House.
But we were taught it was Britain, not Canada, since you were all under the same flag at the time.
My wife (a Canadian) "set me straight", and offhandedly commented that this was considered a very large feather in Canada's cap.
Anyway... back to the topic...
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Vaderize03
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Oct '99
Date Posted:
7/4/02 5:05pm
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RE: How is America the most powerful country in the world?
People have predicted america's decline for decades
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In the 70s, everyone thought we were losing the Cold War. Recent evidence from the former soviet archives show that Brezhnev even contemplated a first strike against the US at this time, believing they could win.
I would take "The Eagle is Landing" with a grain of salt. For all it's problems, the US still has the world's most powerful economy. As the article pointed out, things are still very cyclical. America's 'decline' will reverse, as it did in the 90s from the "Reagonomics" borrowing of the 80s. As far as being the engine of the world, the US still maintains a more diverse economy overall than any other on the planet. While China and Russia have enormous potential, they aren't quite there yet. China is still communist, and much of what they manufacture is textile, which a lot of the world doesn't need, and military, which hurts one's economy.
Russia could get up there pretty quick, but their transition to a market economy has been rocky and corruption is far more rampant there than it is in the US.
Bottom line: reports of the american economy's death have been exaggerated.
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Herman Snerd
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Oct '99
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7/4/02 5:08pm
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RE: How is America the most powerful country in the world?
Industrial might is not to be overlooked. During WWII the US was launching a new Liberty ship practically every
day
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The largest army in the world isn't worth much without guns, tanks, ships, and planes.
It's been said that our economy is turning over from an industrial base to a technology base, but the ability to manufacture goods is still strong, and when combined with plentiful natural resources, gives us a relatively stable economy.
One side factor not to be overlooked is national will. Perhaps part of the reason why we're so powerful both militarily and economically is because we want to be.
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AJA
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Oct '98
Date Posted:
7/4/02 5:19pm
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RE: How is America the most powerful country in the world?
America's 'decline' will reverse, as it did in the 90s from the "Reagonomics" borrowing of the 80s.
Most people who were around at the time would say it was Ronald Reagan who reversed the decline of the 60s and 70s and restored national confidence, but that's an argument for a different thread.
I'm not convinced that America is the most powerful nation in the world, but it is as powerful as it is because of its system and its size. It has shown that when you get the government off the backs of the people, they produce for themselves at a far higher level than they do under any other system.
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imzadi
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The U.S. used to be called a hegimon, meaning that even if every country in the world allied against them, America would still win. This is why it was called the last remaining super power, none of the others had the ability to harm America anymore (if they wished to).
The situation now is that America is no longer really a hegimon, it could not fight everyone at once and win. This is partially due to the fall of the USSR IMO, anyone who wants one can obtain a nuclear weapon or a couple and combined it would be enough to destroy America. Also, the advent of technology plays an important part.
Military power is also less important now. Individuals and not necessarily nations are risks and it's been that way for a while. Some nations still are, but no where near the extent of previous decades.
And finally, on a side note just to clarify, military mistakes are accidents, I agree, and some cannot be helped. But there are cases of negligence. Like a stoned (American) pilot who fired on an Australian vessel during the Vietnam War.
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Coolguy4522
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7/4/02 6:04pm
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RE: How is America the most powerful country in the world?
As for pure facts, you can look at the above posts.
To answer your question, the US is the most powerful because of World War 2. It brought us out of a horrible depression that may or may not have been being corrected, and by the war's end, we had all the good affects of war, ie greater productivity and technological prowess without most of the bad, ie our country was perfectly intact.
I don't think America is declining that much, but our position as world leader will continue for quite some time. Nations such as China and to a lesser extent Russia may have huge potentional, but their governmental systems are just not set up for success.
I will briefly explain the problems of both.
China has a communist government. The reigme is very weak. They know that their economic system is failing and doesn't work, so the leadership wants economic reform without political reform. In recent years, they have created special economic zones along the coastal areas, but this causes problems. The other areas are jealous of these area's new found riches and either want to return to the old way or want to bring this policy to all of the country.
However, with the greater economic reform, there MUST come political reform. This is what makes the leadership so unstable. As capitalism spreads, the people will call for democracy, but the politburo will become desperate to surpress the people, resulting in who knows what.
The problem with Russia is that they gave away all their wealth to the crooks. The privatization was really Piratization. It was the biggest wealth giveaway ever.
Here is just one example how the oligarchies gained control of all the most important sectors of the economy and factories. In a smokey room a man would meet with the treasury guy, who has all these billions just sitting there, so he says "Why don't you put that money in my bank?" so he does and then the banker uses that money to buy the factories and power plants.
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Yodave27
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7/4/02 7:29pm
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RE: How is America the most powerful country in the world?
The only country ever to invade the United States was Canada.
But Canada wasn't a country then, it was still part of the British Empire. While Canadian people did fight, it wasn't under the Canadian flag, thus can't be considered a "Canadian" victory.
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Because we say we are and it's true.
Edit: I'm going to start calling Canada "America Jr."
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Yodave27
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EDIT: Misuderstood Mentos, the fresh maker.
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Hehe, ok, you can do what you want. But that would be like us Americans claiming victory over the French in the French-Indian war (Seven years war, depending on whereyou are.)
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Sarajevo
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RE: How is America the most powerful country in the world?
I don't think there are any superpowers left, just a bunch of powerful countries that tend to be in control of a lot of things. Does it really matter? I mean it doesn't make us better that anyone else. (although some people think differently)
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PeterTutham27
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Does it help that we have the world's largest media? (AKA, largest access to viewing audiences)
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Maveric
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Oct '99
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7/4/02 8:36pm
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Because a town of 100,000 can afford to spend $45,000 on a 15 minute fireworks display.
That's why. That's why.
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Vaderize03
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Let me help convince you: without the US, the Soviet Union would have conquered Europe. America was given it's power by WWII, and we kept it to help fight communism. Now, there is no real nation-state that poses any threat, only terrorism. This is much harder to fight.
I think that gradually, over time, the US will lose it's power not because of decline, but globalization. At some point, there may simply not be a need for a 'superpower'. Interdependency continues to grow, making it harder and harder for any one country to dominate the field.
Imzadi
It would be a LOT harder than you think. The only power with that ability is Russia. Do you have any idea what 100 hydrogen bombs going off would do to any country in the world? The chances of any power getting multiple bombs in here and detonating them is unlikely in the extreme. I worry far more about terrorists bombing planes and things like that than "a country getting a couple of bombs in here and that would finish america". No, it wouldn't. Most likely, whomever would be perpetrating such an act would go for killing civilians, and ignore the military targets.
Now, imagine
17,000
hydrogen bombs going off. The reason the US remains the sole military superpower is that we have enough nuclear weapons to sterilize every piece of living DNA on this planet several thousand times over. Next to that, any country without a similar ability to threaten us would be hard pressed to take the US down. Certainly without us knowing.
By the way,
Lord Bane
, I do have to point out that while Israel has received billions in US aid, they have gone on to modify and develop new weapons and fighting tactics which many in the american military believe are superior to even US/NATO standards. The fighting style of Krav Maga, as well as the Mossad, are two areas in which Israel at the very least rivals any western power. And they have to be, considering the precariousness of their existence.
Peace,
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Fire_Ice_Death
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7/4/02 9:47pm
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Because we're called the great Satan? Ohh wait, we have had ingenuity in the past and have overcome our own flaws. I think that's why.
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Waning Drill
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7/4/02 9:52pm
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Historically, I's say it's the dirt and two large bodies of water. No, seriously.
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