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StickyFingaz Registered: Jul '02	Date Posted: 7/11/02 2:06pm Subject: Minorities will get the short end of the stick, as long as politicians exist - Date Edited: 7/11/02 2:07pm (1 edits total) Edited By: StickyFingaz
	Ok, throghout history this has always been the case. Because politicians are historically driven by one thing only, power, they are only interested in keeping their power. The only way to keep power in a representative government is to get more people to vote for you then the next guy. What does this mean? It means you can ignore problems that affect minorities. It means you can try to please the majority, knowing that it will increase your chances of winning. I think the Republican party in America abuses the fact that America still has whites and Christians as overwhelming majorities. Not that Democrats are that great or antyhing, since even the ones that truly want good for others tend not to have much sucess. Look at the "Under God" ruling and its reactions from politics. It's clearly the correct ruling if you know the history behind its insertion and have an understanding of the Constitution, there is no doubt in my mind they made the right call. But which politician is going to stand up and say, "I agree with this ruling!" and potentially piss off over 90% of its voters who believe in God. Is there a solution to this? Temporarily: We need more minorities in politics! People need to stop letting others represent them, of course, its not that easy since politics is controlled by money and power, and that is passed down family lines that have existed for a while, ahem, Bush, Kennedy, etc. Permanently: A more democratic system of government in which politicians play a bigger role. A society where politics is not about power or money. Can either of these be achieved?
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KnightWriter Title: Administrator Emeritus Registered: Nov '01	Date Posted: 7/11/02 2:08pm Subject: RE: Minorities will get the short end of the stick, as long as politicians exist
	You aren't a sock by chance, are you? -----signature----- Omar: "Can you fix this, Joe?" clock bangs on table Prop Joe: "What's the problem?" Omar: "Run out of time."
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CmdrMitthrawnuruodo Registered: Jul '00	Date Posted: 7/11/02 2:41pm Subject: RE: Minorities will get the short end of the stick, as long as politicians exist
	A more democratic system of government in which politicians play a bigger role. A society where politics is not about power or money. Can either of these be achieved? No. Its against human nature. Sounds also more like communisim in a way. -----signature----- "Dyin' be the day worth livin' for!" --Captain Hector Barbossa PotC: Amuletum Angiti http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3635826/1/ http://s12.gladiatus.com/game/c.php?uid=48046
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Red-Seven Title: Manager Emeritus Registered: Oct '99	Date Posted: 7/11/02 3:34pm Subject: RE: Minorities will get the short end of the stick, as long as politicians exist
	A republican system where certain inherent liberties are protected from majority rule seems sensible. -----signature----- SERENITY NOW!! "All Shall Love Me And Despair!!" - North Korea tells you: "Dood u r teh suq. I will r0xxorz u" "Error of opinion maybe tolerated where reason is left free to combat it." Thomas Jefferson
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AJA Registered: Oct '98	Date Posted: 7/11/02 3:35pm Subject: RE: Minorities will get the short end of the stick, as long as politicians exist
	There are two options when it comes to government: majority rule, and minority rule. Minority rule = dictatorship. -----signature----- BEWARE THE INGENIOUS BRAIN ROBOTRONS THAT POSSESS THE POWER TO REPROGRAM HUMANS INTO SINISTER PROGS. http://etext.lib.virginia.edu/jefferson/quotations/
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Obi-Zahn Kenobi Registered: Aug '99	Date Posted: 7/11/02 3:38pm Subject: RE: Minorities will get the short end of the stick, as long as politicians exist - Date Edited: 7/11/02 3:39pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Obi-Zahn Kenobi
	Majority rule = dictatorship. The majority is as capable of as great restrictions of freedom as minority rule. Hey... Communism is Socialism with dictatorship of the proletariat... The proletariat is the majority... Communism = Socialist Democracy! -----signature----- christus moriebat christus resurrexit christus aderit iterum
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Devilanse Registered: May '02	Date Posted: 7/11/02 3:49pm Subject: RE: Minorities will get the short end of the stick, as long as politicians exist
	The only "minority" in this counrty that we need more of in politics are Indians. Or "Native Americans" if you want to insult them further. Not blacks, not whites, not Mexicans, Asians, etc. Give the people this land was stolen from a say in what goes on here. -----signature----- WAR!
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AJA Registered: Oct '98	Date Posted: 7/11/02 3:58pm Subject: RE: Minorities will get the short end of the stick, as long as politicians exist
	Majority rule = dictatorship. By definition, "majority rule" implies democracy. The majority is as capable of as great restrictions of freedom as minority rule. This is theoretically true, but the question is not which system is perfect, because there is none. The question is which system is preferable. Hey... Communism is Socialism with dictatorship of the proletariat... The proletariat is the majority... Communism = Socialist Democracy! In theory Communism is compatible with democracy. In practice, it is not. The absolute power of the government required to impose the economic dictates of the system ensures that those who oversee that system have absolute power over the people. -----signature----- BEWARE THE INGENIOUS BRAIN ROBOTRONS THAT POSSESS THE POWER TO REPROGRAM HUMANS INTO SINISTER PROGS. http://etext.lib.virginia.edu/jefferson/quotations/
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MadMardigan Registered: Nov '01	Date Posted: 7/11/02 5:25pm Subject: RE: Minorities will get the short end of the stick, as long as politicians exist
	Minorities, whether it be race or ideology, will always get the short end of the stick in a system governed by the votes of the many as opposed to the few. -----signature----- Grilled-Sarlacc ROCKS for loading this Mad Martigan icon. I am at peace.
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StarFire Registered: Oct '01	Date Posted: 7/11/02 5:30pm Subject: RE: Minorities will get the short end of the stick, as long as politicians exist
	Good thing the US is a democratic republic, where laws govern and not men. Eh? I say 'eh?' I think someone's going to disagree soon ... -----signature----- "Nobody stops Venezuela." - President Hugo Chavez "Experience must be our only guide. Reason may mislead us." - John Dickinson
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Coolguy4522 Registered: Dec '00	Date Posted: 7/11/02 7:33pm Subject: RE: Minorities will get the short end of the stick, as long as politicians exist
	I disagree. Minorities do not always get the short end of the stick, and sometimes they get more than their fair share. Alex De Tourqueville (How I am supposed to know how to spell a 200 year old dead french guy's name?) Studied the US system and the biggest complaint he had about it was the "dictatorship of the majority." However, I do not think that the minority is helpless. In fact, the system we have is built so that a minority can stop the majority. You say that Bush and the Republicans are a example of the majority ruling, but the Democrats are voted into office by minorities. A Democrat must bend to the will of blacks, otherwise they wouldn't get 90% of the black vote. And why should American Indians have any more political power? They are a very small minority that already has a somewhat seperate area where they can do what they want. I am sure as a liberal you would like them ruling the country, but what happens when they 'reclaim' your house? I am just kidding, of course, but I see little need to debate that anymore. BTW: They aren't native americans either, they just got here thousands of years before us. -----signature----- http://boards.theforce.net/message.asp?topic=9777663&replies=7 -My farewell thread The Senate Floor: A Higher form of flaming! (and fun) Green Apples!
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AJA Registered: Oct '98	Date Posted: 7/11/02 7:39pm Subject: RE: Minorities will get the short end of the stick, as long as politicians exist
	It's a simple question- which is better, a system where a few people's wishes are overridden by the many, or one where the many are oppressed by the few? The answer is clear, except to those who wish to be the "few" in the latter scenario, and those are the individuals who must be opposed at all costs. -----signature----- BEWARE THE INGENIOUS BRAIN ROBOTRONS THAT POSSESS THE POWER TO REPROGRAM HUMANS INTO SINISTER PROGS. http://etext.lib.virginia.edu/jefferson/quotations/
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cydonia Registered: Jun '01	Date Posted: 7/11/02 7:48pm Subject: RE: Minorities will get the short end of the stick, as long as politicians exist
	We do need more minorities in office. I'm sick of Bush's all white cabinet and advisors. -----signature----- when you're born a lover, you're born to suffer- Like all soul sisters and soul brothers
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Coolguy4522 Registered: Dec '00	Date Posted: 7/11/02 7:58pm Subject: RE: Minorities will get the short end of the stick, as long as politicians exist
	What in TEH heck are you talking about? Have you not seen Condalisa Rice and Collin Powell? Rice is the first black women to hold that important position, yet you do not see the liberal media talking about racial divercity in the Bush White House. I can't remember if he has had more minorities than Clinton, but I know these aren't the only two minorities there, but they are incredibly powerful. Oh wait, they aren't "real" blacks are they? You have to be a Democrat or you "turned white." -----signature----- http://boards.theforce.net/message.asp?topic=9777663&replies=7 -My farewell thread The Senate Floor: A Higher form of flaming! (and fun) Green Apples!
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AJA Registered: Oct '98	Date Posted: 7/12/02 2:45am Subject: RE: Minorities will get the short end of the stick, as long as politicians exist
	I'd guess there's a little sarcasm in that post, but don't hold me to it. -----signature----- BEWARE THE INGENIOUS BRAIN ROBOTRONS THAT POSSESS THE POWER TO REPROGRAM HUMANS INTO SINISTER PROGS. http://etext.lib.virginia.edu/jefferson/quotations/
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TOUCHPUMP Registered: Jan '02	Date Posted: 7/12/02 4:06am Subject: RE: Minorities will get the short end of the stick, as long as politicians exist
	Yep all of Bush's cabinet is White End sarcasm here. While it may not be as diverse as some PC people may like to see please make an informed post before spouting off. BTW the most powerful Cabinet member is held by Powell. -----signature----- I am my Tower of Strength
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