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sleazo Registered: Aug '01	Date Posted: 7/19/02 10:49am Subject: RE: Drug Smuggling.
	It is easy to decry the evils of marijauna when one has never smoked it. i have plenty of friends who are doctors, lawyers and teachers who puff on the doob now andthen to relax. -----signature----- Vive La France I love how i got into fights with Anakin fans before AOTC saying how he would be a butcher. ROTS the Sith proved me right. Anakin Skywalker-Slaughterer of the Innocent
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DESERTJEDI Registered: May '01	Date Posted: 7/19/02 11:00am Subject: RE: Drug Smuggling.
	Just because you've never come across a violent pothead doesn't mean it doesn't happen, I've seen plenty But its not the pot thats making them violent, its the person with or with out it. -----signature----- "The merciless peppers of Quetzlzacatenango!" "desertjedi is a turd" Tricky_Ricky "Yeah, I think I'm gonna get drunk while I listen" Carl
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gwaernardel Registered: Nov '01	Date Posted: 7/19/02 11:08am Subject: RE: Drug Smuggling.
	I agree. Don't listen to everything you learn in school. About one-third is lies and the other two-thirds are so obviously biased that you can't take any of it as fact. -----signature----- im unbanned now awesome
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BKK Registered: May '02	Date Posted: 7/19/02 12:14pm Subject: RE: Drug Smuggling. - Date Edited: 7/19/02 12:43pm (2 edits total) Edited By: BKK
	Yes, I have never smoked it, but that doesn't mean I've never been around it. There was a time when out of 7 of us that hung out together I was the only one who didn't smoke it. I also know that marijuana has never been proven to be addictive, I never said it was, I just said I consider pot bad for you and is a precursor [although not in all cases] to more powerful drugs. Sleazo, if you consider marijuana harmless and the people you mentioned use it to relax would you let your doctor friend operate on you after smoking or your lawyer friend defend you on a murder charge or your teacher friend teach your children or how about an airline pilot, how comfortable would you be in boarding an airplane if you knew the pilot "just wanted to relax" before takeoff. I don't think you would get on board. There is no rationale argument that anyone can give that would prove that drugs just bring you down in the long run. I'm not trying to tell people how to run their lives, I mean if you want to smoke a bowl go ahead it's your life and your body. You should be able to make your own choices in life, I just think it's a bad decision, but that's my opinion just like you guys are entitled to your opinion. EDIT: addressed wrong poster, my bad Gwaernardel, sorry. -----signature----- "What we have here is a failure to communicate" Cool Hand Luke "I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass, and I'm all out of bubblegum-Roddy Piper "They Live" "I'll make him an offer he can't refuse." Michael Corleone-The Godfather
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gwaernardel Registered: Nov '01	Date Posted: 7/19/02 12:21pm Subject: RE: Drug Smuggling. - Date Edited: 7/19/02 12:50pm (2 edits total) Edited By: gwaernardel
	No, and I wouldn't want them drinking alcohol right before any of those things either. But alcohol is legal. And addictive. And widely available. But marijuana is illegal. Sure it's a gateway drug. What about alcohol? What about cigarettes? What about smelling permanent markers? What about stealing cookies from the cookie jar? What about breathing oxygen? I guarantee you won't find a heroin user who hasn't done any of these things before moving on to doing heroin. It doesn't mean they're the cause of it. -----signature----- im unbanned now awesome
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BKK Registered: May '02	Date Posted: 7/19/02 12:26pm Subject: RE: Drug Smuggling.
	I know, that's what I'm saying. I wouldn't want them to do any of those other things either. IMO it all starts with abusing alcohol. I just don't see why marijuana gets the rep as being a harmless fun drug. I mean I know it's not like someone is going to smoke a joint and then go on a killing spree, he's more than likely going to go to Denny's and get the grand-slam breakfast. I just think that if you smoke pot you are at risk to move on to a more dangerous drug, that's all. -----signature----- "What we have here is a failure to communicate" Cool Hand Luke "I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass, and I'm all out of bubblegum-Roddy Piper "They Live" "I'll make him an offer he can't refuse." Michael Corleone-The Godfather
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sleazo Registered: Aug '01	Date Posted: 7/19/02 1:41pm Subject: RE: Drug Smuggling.
	And i said that they can smoke it after they get off work as a way to relax. You know i ddint mean that they smoke while operating or teaching -----signature----- Vive La France I love how i got into fights with Anakin fans before AOTC saying how he would be a butcher. ROTS the Sith proved me right. Anakin Skywalker-Slaughterer of the Innocent
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Saint_of_Killers Registered: Feb '01	Date Posted: 7/19/02 2:21pm Subject: RE: Drug Smuggling.
	"1. When I was in High School, for Health class we had an extensive section on drugs in general and what addictions can do to your body. We had a couple of guest speakers and all of them [4] said they started with alcohol, and pot." "Don't listen to everything you learn in school. About one-third is lies and the other two-thirds are so obviously biased that you can't take any of it as fact." Yep. Don't believe anything they tell you in school about drugs. Schools are run by the government, and the government outlaws drugs, so of course they're gonna make drugs looks as bad as possible, even if they have to lie their ass off, to justify telling people what they can and cannot put inot their own bodies. I went through that crock of bull feces called D.A.R.E. , and I can tell you from experience, that it's all lies. -----signature----- We enter into life naked and howling, covered with blood. The fun doesn't have to end there. Who to himself is law, no law does need, offends no law and is a king indeed Abraham failed the test. TAKE A BOW MISTER BUNNY!!!
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Kimball_Kinnison Registered: Oct '01	Date Posted: 7/19/02 2:45pm Subject: RE: Drug Smuggling.
	Schools are run by the government, and the government outlaws drugs, so of course they're gonna make drugs looks as bad as possible, even if they have to lie their ass off, to justify telling people what they can and cannot put inot their own bodies. I went through that crock of bull feces called D.A.R.E. , and I can tell you from experience, that it's all lies. There is a fallacy to your argument. By your reasoning, the government does not outlaw alcohol, so why do they teach about it in schools like they do drugs and (often) include it as a drug to avoid? If you accept that they are looking out for the public good with one, why not the other? Kimball Kinnison -----signature----- You deserve the wrath of Kimball...- OWM Why, Kimball... I didn't know you had it in you.- KW I think that Kimball just made a joke, and a funny joke at that.- Raven Stupidity got us into this mess, why can't it get us out?
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JediStryker Title: TFN FanSite Reviewer Registered: Mar '00	Date Posted: 7/19/02 3:06pm Subject: RE: Drug Smuggling.
	I think it is more likely that they would simply begin gasp* selling their products legally?* You honestly think that drug dealers would start selling drugs legally?!? Let's pretend that all drugs are legalized. First off, since drugs are used on the human body, they now fall under the review of the FDA. The FDA must look over and approve of all drugs that are to be sold. This means that drug factories and growers/makers must be constantly reviewed by FDA agents. This will undoubtedly raise drug prices, as many of the drugs sold by small-time dealers are not "pure" or within standards that would be considered "safe". Second off, drug dealers would then have to purchase business licenses. This is so they can be tracked and taxed. Thirdly, because of the nature of most drugs, dealers would no longer be able to sell on the streets. They would have to set up bar-type establishments, which means building leases and permits. Also, because many drugs are injected, the government will require standard safety and health inspections, which often lead to charges imposed on the business proprieter to fix problems that come up. Fourth, due to the Democratic party's love of punishing businesses that sell products that are harmful to people (tobacco companies, anyone?), taxes on drugs would be astronomical. Drug dealers already know how to get around the system, do you honestly think that they are suddenly going to say, "Sweet, now I can be an honest, tax-paying, law-abiding citizen; and make approximately one-third selling legally what I could sell illegally and keep all the profit"? What a joke. -----signature----- http://legendsofstarwars.com http://swuniverse.net
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sleazo Registered: Aug '01	Date Posted: 7/19/02 3:09pm Subject: RE: Drug Smuggling.
	"Fourth, due to the Democratic party's love of punishing businesses that sell products that are harmful to people (tobacco companies, anyone?), taxes on drugs would be astronomical" Lets not sit here and pretend just because you are a republican that democrats are the only politicians eating out of the hands of whoever finances their campaigns. Unfortunately that is how the system works. It is not a republican democrat thing. -----signature----- Vive La France I love how i got into fights with Anakin fans before AOTC saying how he would be a butcher. ROTS the Sith proved me right. Anakin Skywalker-Slaughterer of the Innocent
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JediStryker Title: TFN FanSite Reviewer Registered: Mar '00	Date Posted: 7/19/02 3:14pm Subject: RE: Drug Smuggling.
	Lets not sit here and pretend just because you are a republican that democrats are the only politicians eating out of the hands of whoever finances their campaigns. Unfortunately that is how the system works. It is not a republican democrat thing. Unfortunately true for many of our politicians; what does that have to do with Democrats being adamant about punishing tobacco companies? -----signature----- http://legendsofstarwars.com http://swuniverse.net
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MadMardigan Registered: Nov '01	Date Posted: 7/19/02 3:14pm Subject: RE: Drug Smuggling.
	BKK said: Drugs cannot be anything but bad in the long run Did you know that living can be bad in the long run? Did you know one day you will get old and sick and die? Did you know McDonald's is bad in the long run? Did you know everyday you drive in a car, your chances of dying mangled over a steering wheel increase dramatically? Did you the sun is bad for you in the long run? Did you know taking Advil everyday is bad for you in the long run? Did you know breathing our polluted air is bad for you in the long run? Did you know cell phone's can cause cancer and guess what...will be bad for you in the long run? Finally...did you know guns could be bad for me in the long run, but me smoking a joint will never ever affect you in the long run? Ever. -----signature----- Grilled-Sarlacc ROCKS for loading this Mad Martigan icon. I am at peace.
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JediStryker Title: TFN FanSite Reviewer Registered: Mar '00	Date Posted: 7/19/02 3:20pm Subject: RE: Drug Smuggling. - Date Edited: 7/19/02 3:20pm (1 edits total) Edited By: JediStryker
	Finally...did you know guns could be bad for me in the long run, but me smoking a joint will never ever affect you in the long run? Ever. Unless the money you used to buy the pot for the joint (illegally) goes toward a terrorism organization that uses it to buy parts that it needs for a bomb that is given to a homicide bomber who uses it at a restaurant that I am eating at. Then it hurts me in the long run. -----signature----- http://legendsofstarwars.com http://swuniverse.net
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StarFire Registered: Oct '01	Date Posted: 7/19/02 3:24pm Subject: RE: Drug Smuggling. - Date Edited: 7/19/02 3:29pm (1 edits total) Edited By: StarFire
	Drugs are generally highly addictive substances. If they were legalized, doesn't that mean that they would have to be prescribed by licensed medical practitioners? Or should only addictive drugs with positive effects be metered out so? -----signature----- "Nobody stops Venezuela." - President Hugo Chavez "Experience must be our only guide. Reason may mislead us." - John Dickinson
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