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stevo Registered: Aug '01	Date Posted: 9/5/02 4:26pm Subject: Should income-tax be abolished?
	I defintely think it should. Income tax started out as .5% in the 20's and the government promised that it would never go above 2% . . . it is now over 30. I do not care how much the U.S. needs that money-- the means of getting money through how much or little someone makes on how hard they work is something that I would never suppot. Please forgive me for not being well-informed on this subject, I am going to go read up on it right now. -----signature----- The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable man perisists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Thus all prgress depends on the unreasonable man.
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Red-Seven Title: Manager Emeritus Registered: Oct '99	Date Posted: 9/5/02 4:45pm Subject: RE: Should income-tax be abolished?
	What are the alternatives you would support? A National Value-Added Tax (Sales Tax)? (Much) Heavier Corporate Taxes? (Astronomical) Tarriffs? Complete Abolition of 85% of all Federal programs, including Defense and all Social programs? -----signature----- SERENITY NOW!! "All Shall Love Me And Despair!!" - North Korea tells you: "Dood u r teh suq. I will r0xxorz u" "Error of opinion maybe tolerated where reason is left free to combat it." Thomas Jefferson
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stevo Registered: Aug '01	Date Posted: 9/5/02 4:53pm Subject: RE: Should income-tax be abolished? - Date Edited: 9/5/02 4:56pm (1 edits total) Edited By: stevo
	Complete Abolition of 85% of all Federal programs, including Defense and all Social programs? I want to destroy the social programs and abolish forgein-aid. Will it happen? No, but that is what I believe is necessary and just. EDIT: Defense and education are imperative, but forgein aid and social programs are not. We need the Justice system, but it doesn't use its funds effectively. -----signature----- The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable man perisists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Thus all prgress depends on the unreasonable man.
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Red-Seven Title: Manager Emeritus Registered: Oct '99	Date Posted: 9/5/02 5:00pm Subject: RE: Should income-tax be abolished?
	First, Foreign aid is such a pathetically small part of the US budget that I am embarressed you list it along with Defense and Social Programs in scale. Second, funding for Defense would have to be slashed dramatically if there was no income tax and no other tax replacing the lost revenue. Third, I am quite sure you have no idea what you are talking about when you say you'd like to abolish all social programs. -----signature----- SERENITY NOW!! "All Shall Love Me And Despair!!" - North Korea tells you: "Dood u r teh suq. I will r0xxorz u" "Error of opinion maybe tolerated where reason is left free to combat it." Thomas Jefferson
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Rikalonius Registered: Jul '01	Date Posted: 9/5/02 5:39pm Subject: RE: Should income-tax be abolished?
	Defense is provided for in the constitution, welfar and a state (by state I mean the federal government) run government school. I know it is inconcievable to ever get rid of it, but it should be reduced, and should be flattened. It was started in the early 1900's as a means to pay for WWI, and it was promised to be repealed. I would rather at this moment to get rid of Captital gains tax, inheritance tax, and marriage tax. -----signature----- The above post most likely contains glaring spelling errors. Get over it, constant spell checking effects my creative thought. Be assured that a walk through the ocean of most souls, would scarcely get your feet wet.
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Rebecca191 Registered: Nov '99	Date Posted: 9/5/02 5:46pm Subject: RE: Should income-tax be abolished? - Date Edited: 9/5/02 5:46pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Rebecca191
	I don't think it should be eliminated, but it should definitley be lowered. I also don't think the government should be allowed to collect income tax from people under 18, beacuse they cannot vote, and therefore it is taxation without representation. -----signature----- Join the Dark Chocolate Side!
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stevo Registered: Aug '01	Date Posted: 9/5/02 5:53pm Subject: RE: Should income-tax be abolished?
	Red-Seven: I do understand how little of a percentage that forgein-aid takes up, and I probably shouldn't have put that in-- a little too much of my opnion. -----signature----- The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable man perisists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Thus all prgress depends on the unreasonable man.
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Rikalonius Registered: Jul '01	Date Posted: 9/5/02 6:13pm Subject: RE: Should income-tax be abolished?
	I also don't think the government should be allowed to collect income tax from people under 18, beacuse they cannot vote Rebeca, I think that is a great idea as well. I would go a step further and say that you shouldn't be allowed to vote UNLESS you are paying income tax. Why should you vote on how tax payer dollars are spent if you are not fiscially viable to it. And before someone suggests it, no I don't think if your super rich you should get more votes. -----signature----- The above post most likely contains glaring spelling errors. Get over it, constant spell checking effects my creative thought. Be assured that a walk through the ocean of most souls, would scarcely get your feet wet.
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stevo Registered: Aug '01	Date Posted: 9/5/02 6:24pm Subject: RE: Should income-tax be abolished? - Date Edited: 9/5/02 6:32pm (1 edits total) Edited By: stevo
	EDIT: Oops, I read your post earlier Bec-- but somewhere along the way it got twisted in my head. And in that case, I do agree with you. And I, too, also have a major dislike of inheritance tax-- what is it? Almost 50% I think. -----signature----- The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable man perisists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Thus all prgress depends on the unreasonable man.
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Rebecca191 Registered: Nov '99	Date Posted: 9/5/02 6:27pm Subject: RE: Should income-tax be abolished? - Date Edited: 9/5/02 6:37pm (2 edits total) Edited By: Rebecca191
	I never said I wanted the voting age changed. It should stay at 18. The government just shouldn't be allowed to collect taxes from minors. They can't vote. Therefore, it is taxation without representation. Edit: Ok, you got it now. And yeah, I also think inheiritance tax is wrong at such an excessive amount. -----signature----- Join the Dark Chocolate Side!
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Fire_Ice_Death Registered: Feb '01	Date Posted: 9/5/02 6:46pm Subject: RE: Should income-tax be abolished? - Date Edited: 9/5/02 6:47pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Fire_Ice_Death
	I don't pay income taxes. If I did, they'd get very little. Our system for taxation is really stupid. We don't pay taxes. We give them our money, which they call being taxed. Isn't there something wrong with that? That the government can take money from you without you giving them your consent? -----signature----- Humor is my shield. Sarcasm my sword. The Changing Face of America: What can brown do for you? Gamertag: FIDo Almighty Remember: Frank Miller hates you.
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Maveric Registered: Oct '99	Date Posted: 9/5/02 7:48pm Subject: RE: Should income-tax be abolished?
	You give them consent. You use their roads, you use their water that they pipe to your house, the electricity that comes on when you turn on a switch, and eat the food that they insist meets "Pure" standards. If you did not want to give them your consent, you have the opportunity to leave. -----signature----- Reading maketh a full man; conference a ready man; and writing an exact man. -Sir Francis Bacon
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Aurra_Sting Registered: Jun '02	Date Posted: 9/5/02 7:51pm Subject: RE: Should income-tax be abolished?
	I've always thought we should get rid of income tax and make sales tax much higher. Then you are, in a way, giving your consent as to how much they take from you.
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Uruk-hai Registered: Oct '00	Date Posted: 9/5/02 8:05pm Subject: RE: Should income-tax be abolished?
	What the government does provide for your taxes are schools, hospitals, roads, sporting facilities, parks, litter removal, social benefits, police services, ambulance services, fire brigades, community welfare services, courts, laws and regulation, defence forces, international policy, agriculture benefits, research and development.....the list goes on and on. If you don't want to pay tax, don't use any of these services. Buy an island somewhere and live in a grass hut with no essential services. -----signature----- Math is hard! Tho are etheth! Remember Bali 12th October 2002.
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DarthLothi Registered: Sep '01	Date Posted: 9/6/02 5:40am Subject: RE: Should income-tax be abolished?
	I don't think it should be abolished, but I do think it needs to be flattened. 15% maybe. And eliminate the capital gains and inheritance taxes, as well as the marriage penalty. What really rankles me about the capital gains tax is that if you're investing on your own outside of a 401(k), you're essentially getting taxed twice on the same money. You get taxed on it when you earn it (as income tax), then again when you put it to work for you. And if you've hung on to your investments during the recent market drops, you'll pay capital gains taxes on those investments again when the market starts to go back up. The government screws you coming and going. And don't get me started on taxing imputed income... -----signature----- "Anything but mad passionate love isn't worth your time. . . there are too many mediocre things in life for love to be one of them." Lothi Loreley Darth_Tim's Unrelated Opposite Twin
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Wylding Registered: Aug '00	Date Posted: 9/6/02 5:42am Subject: RE: Should income-tax be abolished?
	I defintely think it should. Income tax started out as .5% in the 20's and the government promised that it would never go above 2% . . . it is now over 30. Promises promises. -----signature----- Jedi Master
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