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_Darth_Brooks_ Registered: Sep '00	Date Posted: 9/14/02 12:25am Subject: RE: * * Evolution or Creation ( Keep it cool ) version 2.0 * * - Date Edited: 9/14/02 12:36am (1 edits total) Edited By: _Darth_Brooks_
	Well, it's nice to see the atheists coming clean for a change. Sarcasm is a poor substitute for real argument. Perhaps one of you wonderfully educated people will give one example of spontaneous generation scientifically recorded as occuring? As all natural unharnessed energy is destructive, perhaps you'll explain how it worked to the good in the initiation of the universe? Please give me one recorded detonation of any type of explosion that resulted in an ordered structure or living organism? Where has macroevolution ever been observed? What’s the mechanism for getting new complexity such as new vital organs? If any of the thousands of vital organs evolved, how could the organism live before getting the vital organ, because without a vital organ, the organism is dead—by definition? If a reptile’s leg evolved into a bird’s wing, wouldn’t it become a bad leg long before it became a good wing? How could metamorphosis evolve? Those shouldn't be too difficult, eh? -----signature----- "I once wanted to become an atheist but I gave up . . . they have no holidays. " I AM AN ACT OF GOD. If you doubt it ask my insurance agent. Whom the Mod's would destroy they first drive mad.
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Saint_of_Killers Registered: Feb '01	Date Posted: 9/14/02 12:55am Subject: RE: * * Evolution or Creation ( Keep it cool ) version 2.0 * *
	You know, I could swear most, if not all, of those questions were asked and answered in the last thread. ?:\| -----signature----- We enter into life naked and howling, covered with blood. The fun doesn't have to end there. Who to himself is law, no law does need, offends no law and is a king indeed Abraham failed the test. TAKE A BOW MISTER BUNNY!!!
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_Darth_Brooks_ Registered: Sep '00	Date Posted: 9/14/02 1:15am Subject: RE: * * Evolution or Creation ( Keep it cool ) version 2.0 * * - Date Edited: 9/14/02 1:19am (1 edits total) Edited By: _Darth_Brooks_
	They were asked. In fact, they were asked repeatedly for a direct answer. Do have the answers? I have more questions that were never answered either. -----signature----- "I once wanted to become an atheist but I gave up . . . they have no holidays. " I AM AN ACT OF GOD. If you doubt it ask my insurance agent. Whom the Mod's would destroy they first drive mad.
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Force of Nature Registered: Nov '99	Date Posted: 9/14/02 2:33am Subject: RE: * * Evolution or Creation ( Keep it cool ) version 2.0 * *
	"If a reptile’s leg evolved into a bird’s wing, wouldn’t it become a bad leg long before it became a good wing?" I know this one's been addressed before, probably because it's such a no-brainer. If an anthropoid's forelegs evolved into arms, wouldn't they become bad legs long before they became good arms? Seen any other anthropoids recently? Seen any that could outrun a cheetah? No, didn't think so. But arms, even not very 'good' arms, have their uses - throwing rocks at the aforementioned cheetah could be one of them ... or grabbing hold of a broken branch and letting it skewer itself on it. Oh, and getting back to the 'wings' thing ... they may have been useful for gliding; a number of animals that don't have 'wings' do have an otherwise superfluous expanse of skin which serves the same purpose. KW: Any chance we could have the old thread unlocked? Would it help is I said 'please'? -----signature----- I didn't actually come here to free slaves.
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filthyitch Registered: Sep '02	Date Posted: 9/14/02 2:38am Subject: RE: * * Evolution or Creation ( Keep it cool ) version 2.0 * *
	There goes the neighborhood.
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SaberGiiett7 Registered: Jul '02	Date Posted: 9/14/02 5:28am Subject: RE: * * Evolution or Creation ( Keep it cool ) version 2.0 * *
	Okay this may sound really dumb but bear with me.How could a Mammel(bird) evolve from a Reptile(Dinosaur)? -----signature----- Slave to my R Complex. "It's all right. It's OK. There's something to live for! Jesus told me so!" "Right or wrong, the main criterion is what you do and not what you say." The American Revolution has been betrayed.
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KnightWriter Title: Administrator Emeritus Registered: Nov '01	Date Posted: 9/14/02 7:42am Subject: RE: * * Evolution or Creation ( Keep it cool ) version 2.0 * * - Date Edited: 9/14/02 7:43am (1 edits total) Edited By: KnightWriter
	The last thread is filled with trouble posts that got it closed. I'd rather keep it closed. I had also not intended to have this debate start up so soon again. -----signature----- Omar: "Can you fix this, Joe?" clock bangs on table Prop Joe: "What's the problem?" Omar: "Run out of time."
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_Darth_Brooks_ Registered: Sep '00	Date Posted: 9/14/02 8:13am Subject: RE: * * Evolution or Creation ( Keep it cool ) version 2.0 * *
	Force of Nature, "I know this one's been addressed before, probably because it's such a no-brainer." Yeah, it's a no brainer. That's why you gave such a 'lame' in regard to the appendages. answer. Try again when your synapses are in use. KW, look at how this is going already. -----signature----- "I once wanted to become an atheist but I gave up . . . they have no holidays. " I AM AN ACT OF GOD. If you doubt it ask my insurance agent. Whom the Mod's would destroy they first drive mad.
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Master-Aries Registered: Sep '02	Date Posted: 9/14/02 8:17am Subject: RE: * * Evolution or Creation ( Keep it cool ) version 2.0 * *
	Well in my opinion man is here to further the flora in your digestive tract. Simply put without it we die, in fact think of the muscular, skeletal and nervous systems as extras in the pursuing of sustenance to increase the survival of the Bacteria in your bowls. The digestive tract is completely separate from your system; actually one has a big hole inside of you starting from the mouth right down to the anus. Which by the way is made of the same material as you lips. So we have developed mobility thought and the big financial world to further the existence of bacteria. Always good to know these things and where we stand in Evolution/Creation. Sincerely Master-Aries -----signature----- Life’s a Dream Existence and Resistance is Futile ! One's own exsitance in irrelevant !
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KnightWriter Title: Administrator Emeritus Registered: Nov '01	Date Posted: 9/14/02 8:18am Subject: RE: * * Evolution or Creation ( Keep it cool ) version 2.0 * * - Date Edited: 9/14/02 9:05am (1 edits total) Edited By: KnightWriter
	Yeah, it's a no brainer. That's why you gave such a 'lame' in regard to the appendages. answer. Try again when your synapses are in use. KW, look at how this is going already. How can you tell me "look how this is going already when you write, "That's why you gave such a 'lame' in regard to the appendages. answer. Try again when your synapses are in use." -----signature----- Omar: "Can you fix this, Joe?" clock bangs on table Prop Joe: "What's the problem?" Omar: "Run out of time."
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_Darth_Brooks_ Registered: Sep '00	Date Posted: 9/14/02 9:37am Subject: RE: * * Evolution or Creation ( Keep it cool ) version 2.0 * *
	KW, I wasn't excluding myself. No feigned victimhood here, I promise. I don't claim clean hands. Granted my humor is failing. The "lame" was in referral to the useless appendages being discussed, and the 'synapse' remark in referral to the "no brainer." Very lousy puns, guilty as charged. -----signature----- "I once wanted to become an atheist but I gave up . . . they have no holidays. " I AM AN ACT OF GOD. If you doubt it ask my insurance agent. Whom the Mod's would destroy they first drive mad.
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Darth_Guy Registered: Aug '02	Date Posted: 9/14/02 10:23am Subject: RE: * * Evolution or Creation ( Keep it cool ) version 2.0 * *
	SaberGiiet: Dinosaurs were not exactly reptiles, they were warm blooded. How can they evolve into birds, you ask? I don't know the exact conditions but for some reason they needed to be birds. Yes, there was some awkwardness in that transition from leg to wing. Many specimens have been found with partial "wings". _Darth_Brooks_: Unfortunately, I am not well educated enough to answer your questions. I am sure most if not all have been previously answered by real scientists. My EDUCATED GUESS is that an evolving animal's body evolves with the vital organ. As the organ beomes more vital, the animal's body depends more on it. Evolution takes a long time, so it's impossible for you to see it happening. Humans themselves are evolving still. No animal is ever perfectly adapted to its enviroment, so they change a lot. We as a race will look different in a million years. IF we're even here in a million years. In my opinion, humans are a evolutionary failure. But that's a different topic. -----signature----- Pin my medals on my chest!
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ADMIRALSPUZZUM Registered: Feb '02	Date Posted: 9/14/02 10:30am Subject: RE: * * Evolution or Creation ( Keep it cool ) version 2.0 * * - Date Edited: 9/14/02 10:31am (1 edits total) Edited By: ADMIRALSPUZZUM
	Well, personally, evolution does sound a little hokey with me and I'm more inclined to believe we are the product of an intelligent design. Not that evolution is wrong, just that it was guided. (All of this is IMO, mind you.)
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cydonia Registered: Jun '01	Date Posted: 9/14/02 3:42pm Subject: RE: * * Evolution or Creation ( Keep it cool ) version 2.0 * * - Date Edited: 9/14/02 4:01pm (1 edits total) Edited By: cydonia
	"Sarcasm is a poor substitute for real argument." It serves a purpose if you have a personality and a sense of humor. -----signature----- when you're born a lover, you're born to suffer- Like all soul sisters and soul brothers
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Sturm Antilles Title: Former Manager Registered: Jun '00	Date Posted: 9/14/02 4:33pm Subject: RE: * * Evolution or Creation ( Keep it cool ) version 2.0 * *
	Go to this site for an excellent repository for facts and evidence, and presenting both views in a balanced light. Just some information I found on it : Roughly 95% of all scientists adhere to the natural evolution theory. New Earth Creationists believe that God created the Earth approximately 10,000 years ago. Old Earth Creationists ( which, IMO, have a more reasonable and well-thought out theory ) believe that God created the Earth billions of years ago, but life still evolved naturally. If one was to follow the New Earth philosophy, you would have to accept that both man and dinosaurs lived on the planet at the same time, which has been proven wrong. ( i.e. fossils of both, on the same layer of rock, have never been found. ) Unless you disengage yourself from the literal meaning of Genesis when it describes God creating the Earth in six days, and think it happened over a longer period of time. Evolutionists believe that dinosaurs ruled the Earth until about 65 billion years ago, when an asteroid wiped them out. Countless years later, neanderthals and other pre-humans began, which then evolved and branched off into two different species...humans and apes. -----signature----- "You're the most compliant rebel I've ever met." - jaya02 Currently reading : About seven different novels at once.
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