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KnightWriter Title: Administrator Emeritus Registered: Nov '01	Date Posted: 10/3/02 9:20pm Subject: RE: Marriage-the forgotten sin.
	Not at all, and I truly do not understand where you get that from. The underlying negativity has to do with sex outside of marraige, not within marraige. -----signature----- Omar: "Can you fix this, Joe?" clock bangs on table Prop Joe: "What's the problem?" Omar: "Run out of time."
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Saint_of_Killers Registered: Feb '01	Date Posted: 10/3/02 9:28pm Subject: RE: Marriage-the forgotten sin. - Date Edited: 10/3/02 9:30pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Saint_of_Killers
	Well someone who has sex only within the bonds of marriage is still not a virgin, and thus not 'pure'. The fact that virginity is associated with purity is indicative of an attitude that equates sex with impurity. I'm not saying this is how you feel, I'd never presume to tell someone what is in their own heart, but this just seems to be the overall attitude towards sex within Christianity(not necesarrily within individual Christians). -----signature----- We enter into life naked and howling, covered with blood. The fun doesn't have to end there. Who to himself is law, no law does need, offends no law and is a king indeed Abraham failed the test. TAKE A BOW MISTER BUNNY!!!
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KnightWriter Title: Administrator Emeritus Registered: Nov '01	Date Posted: 10/3/02 9:30pm Subject: RE: Marriage-the forgotten sin.
	I don't see virginity as always being part of it. A widow marries a second time and isn't a virgin, but the sex within marraige is just as good as it would be if she were a virgin. -----signature----- Omar: "Can you fix this, Joe?" clock bangs on table Prop Joe: "What's the problem?" Omar: "Run out of time."
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DarthPhelps Registered: Jan '02	Date Posted: 10/4/02 6:55am Subject: RE: Marriage-the forgotten sin.
	didn’t we get the ability to have knowledge and our own thoughts when we disobeyed the word of God and ate the fruit of knowledge? It was actually referred to as the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, which I interpret as innocence. My take on it then is that when the fruit of that tree was eaten we lost our innocence. It doesn't conflict with the ability to reason, I'd say. -----signature----- I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion. Sometimes I wake up grumpy. Other times I let her sleep.
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Ariana Lang Registered: Oct '99	Date Posted: 10/4/02 7:54am Subject: RE: Marriage-the forgotten sin.
	Dude, Saint, actually Christians probably value sex more than those who throw it all over the place, because we wait and want to wait and save it for one person and have it be totally totally special (and mind-blowing, hopefully. communication, communication, communication.) Trust me, except for a few very strict Catholics and maybe some cults, no Christian thinks sex is bad. I Sex! -----signature----- Delta Delta Delta To the world you may be one person, but to one person you may be the world Ariana+Palpazzar=
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Saint_of_Killers Registered: Feb '01	Date Posted: 10/4/02 3:42pm Subject: RE: Marriage-the forgotten sin.
	Well you love orgasms. You've never had sex, so you don't know if you love it. I'm not saying that's how individual Christians feel, but it does seem to be heavily implied in the bible that sex = impure. -----signature----- We enter into life naked and howling, covered with blood. The fun doesn't have to end there. Who to himself is law, no law does need, offends no law and is a king indeed Abraham failed the test. TAKE A BOW MISTER BUNNY!!!
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Synthesized Registered: Oct '02	Date Posted: 10/4/02 4:52pm Subject: RE: Marriage-the forgotten sin.
	Knowledge and intellect are two different things, EnforcerSG. I also echo DarthPhelps's post. I'm not saying that's how individual Christians feel, but it does seem to be heavily implied in the bible that sex = impure. Well, just look at culture today. The vast majority of the context sex is used/talked about in IS impure! It's also quite the human temptation. It's no wonder the Bible has a lot to say about it. I wouldn't doubt people in the Bible times abused it as much as we do. Another reason why faith seems to be more important than reason? Actually, I believe God gave us a discerning mind to be able to appreciate Him more fully. Reason strengthens faith, so to speak. The more I learn about the intricacies and cycles of science and the world and just how everything connects and works together in such a delicate balanced way, it becomes less and less plausible it was all a random accident, and more and more plausible it was intelligent design. Just IMO. -----signature----- "It was when I was happiest that I longed most... the sweetest thing in all my life has been the longing... to find the place where all the beauty came from." (Til We Have Faces)
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ferelwookie Registered: Oct '01	Date Posted: 10/5/02 11:58am Subject: RE: Marriage-the forgotten sin.
	I'm not saying that's how individual Christians feel, but it does seem to be heavily implied in the bible that sex = impure. Yeah, but there's a LOT of naughty fornicating going on in the Old Testament...including incest. And of course there's that whole "Be fruitful and multiply" bit too. So again, the bible is full of contradictions IMO. -----signature----- Ferelwookie LIVES!!! (Still can't spell feralwookiee right though)
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Ariana Lang Registered: Oct '99	Date Posted: 10/5/02 1:52pm Subject: RE: Marriage-the forgotten sin.
	Dude, once again: Do not fornicate and be fruitful and multiply are NOT contradictions. Get y'all's minds out of the gutter. -----signature----- Delta Delta Delta To the world you may be one person, but to one person you may be the world Ariana+Palpazzar=
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Master-Jedi-Smith Registered: May '02	Date Posted: 10/5/02 2:43pm Subject: RE: Marriage-the forgotten sin.
	But the incest thing is kind of hard to overlook. Latre! -----signature----- "The majority in a democracy has no more the right to tyrannize over the minority than, under a different system, the latter would to oppress the former." ------T.R.
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Ramius Registered: Jun '02	Date Posted: 10/5/02 6:16pm Subject: RE: Marriage-the forgotten sin.
	I don't see any contradiction in "be fruitful and multiply" and "Don't fornicate." Be fuitful and multiply means get married and have lots of kids. Fornication is just sleeping around. A very big difference. I don't think there is any feeling in christanity that sex=impure. As stated before, it's only impure if you do it outside of marriage. In marriage, the most important thing is having sex. So don't tell me it's impied in the Bible that all sex is bad. -----signature----- And shepherds we shall be, for thee my Lord for thee, Power hath descended forth from thy hand, that our feet may swiftly carry out thy command, We shall flow a river forth to thee, And teeming with souls shall it ever be.
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_Darth_Brooks_ Registered: Sep '00	Date Posted: 10/5/02 9:50pm Subject: RE: Marriage-the forgotten sin.
	It's real simple; It's all about love. Loving God, oneself, and others. The Commandments and the whole shebang is trying to instruct people in truly loving. If you love God, you try to please Him, willingly, just as you do for the people in your life that you love, be it spouse, siblings, parents, friends, and even strangers. You treat them with as much kindness and consideration as possible. When you truly love someone you desire to give to them, not just receive. And HEY! That's the best recipe for making love. Especially when it's reciprocated. You don't sleep with strangers, because that's not in anyone's best interest. Therefore THOU SHALT NOT FORNICATE. Fornication is sex outside of marriage. You don't commit adultery because #1 it violates a loving God's rules of conduct in loving one another, and then, #2 it hurts yourself spiritually, and #3 it hurts your spouse, children, parents, friends, aaand the same for the person you committed adultery with, the community, and beyond, as those wounds are carried out like ripples in a pond into the lives of others. Sex is emotional, spiritual, and physical. NOT just physical. -----signature----- "I once wanted to become an atheist but I gave up . . . they have no holidays. " I AM AN ACT OF GOD. If you doubt it ask my insurance agent. Whom the Mod's would destroy they first drive mad.
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BobaFrank Registered: Jul '01	Date Posted: 10/5/02 10:00pm Subject: RE: Marriage-the forgotten sin. - Date Edited: 10/5/02 10:05pm (2 edits total) Edited By: BobaFrank
	Marriage is not a sin. In the original post of this thread I believe Chris is misinterpreting whats being said. Those who do not marry will be administering angels to GOD. The King James version of the bible is the most accurate of all versions. Especially not the new world version where man has interpreted what they think it says so we will understand it better. Sex is for procreation and is to be held sacred between man and wife legally and lawfully married. Fornication is any sexual act committed outside the bonds of marriage. Sex is a sin outside the bonds of marriage. Some will diagree some will not. Sex is the most intamate way a husband and wife can express their love to one another. Sex is not just physical. It is spiritual as well, and fulfills the commandment of God to multiply and replensish the Earth. -----signature----- "Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering." -Yoda TPM "May the Force Be with You." "One Nation Under GOD." "I want to come with you to Alderaan and become a Jedi like my father." "I am a Jedi. Like my father before me."
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Saint_of_Killers Registered: Feb '01	Date Posted: 10/5/02 10:25pm Subject: RE: Marriage-the forgotten sin.
	"The King James version of the bible is the most accurate of all versions." -----signature----- We enter into life naked and howling, covered with blood. The fun doesn't have to end there. Who to himself is law, no law does need, offends no law and is a king indeed Abraham failed the test. TAKE A BOW MISTER BUNNY!!!
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Master-Jedi-Smith Registered: May '02	Date Posted: 10/5/02 10:25pm Subject: RE: Marriage-the forgotten sin.
	Sex outside of marriage is just that, sex outside of marriage. It's the same act as having sex when married. The same things occur. It is done the same way. The only difference is in your head! But, say it is only right to do so when married, is it alright if married homosexuals have sex? Or as I stated before, what if some guy has numerous wives. Is it okay for him to have sex with all of them as long as they are married? As for versions of the bible, The New International Version & the King James version. Hmm...anyone else with a favorite? Keep them coming, I'd sure like to see how many different versions there are, and how many people think one is better translated than the other. Latre! -----signature----- "The majority in a democracy has no more the right to tyrannize over the minority than, under a different system, the latter would to oppress the former." ------T.R.
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