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DarthKarde Registered: Jun '02	Date Posted: 1/18/03 1:23pm Subject: RE: Terrorism - Q and A/Discussion
	And the best defense against terrorist acts is prevention. That's the only wuy to stop something like that from happening. Of course, but intel not military campaigns is the key to prevention. -----signature----- The UK Independance Party - http://www.ukip.org The Freedom Association - http://www.tfa.net Better Off Out - http://www.betteroffout.co.uk Say NO2ID and the database state - http://www.no2id.net/
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Jansons_Funny_Twin Registered: Jul '02	Date Posted: 1/18/03 1:36pm Subject: RE: Terrorism - Q and A/Discussion
	Of course, but intel not military campaigns is the key to prevention. You have no idea how true that is. -----signature----- "GAIUS H. CHRIST!" - My younger brother. "you guys, you're so cute with your anal rape and man love" - lexu For Khaz Modan! "IGNORE ME!"
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Binary_Sunset Registered: Oct '00	Date Posted: 2/1/03 6:57pm Subject: RE: Terrorism - Q and A/Discussion
	I don't think that there are any terrorists who are targeting the USA because if there were they would have struck long ago. They don’t need high-tech equipment, bombs, masterminds, and networks. All they need to do is buy a little bit of poison and become waiters in Washington D. C. restaurants. Have a list of politicians they don’t like, and add poison to their food. Then claim responsibility for it in the press and give a list of all the politicians who won’t be able to eat out if they don’t vote the American soldiers out of foreign countries and bring them back home. A sixth-grader could figure this out. So, if there really were a bunch of terrorists and masterminds out there, they could figure it out too. That means there aren't any terrorists (or, if there are, they’re as dumb as rocks). This also means that the War on Terrorism is a hoax. If sixth-graders can figure out how to kill politicians, you can bet that the politicians can figure it out too. They know there aren't any terrorists because if there were the politicians would have been poisoned a long time ago. “What a minute! What about 9-11?” Well, what about it? There were nineteen suicidal guys who ditched jets into buildings. They aren't going to bother anyone any more because they are all dead. Fact is, they were too stupid to be terrorists. Why go to all the trouble to learn to fly a plane when all you have to do is be a waiter? Seems to me these were nineteen morons or drunks (or both) who made a bar bet that they could hijack some planes and crash them into buildings. They won the bet, but they didn’t think far enough ahead to realize they couldn’t collect…
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anidanami124 Registered: Aug '02	Date Posted: 2/1/03 7:12pm Subject: RE: Terrorism - Q and A/Discussion
	Binary_Sunset Look in any Encyclopedia or dictieron(spelling) under Terrorism. Terrorism means: To use the threat of violence to create fear and alarm. Terrorists murder and kidnap people, set of bombs, hijack airplanes, set fires, and commit other serious crimes. I got this from The World Book Enycylopedia. Know if youwant to say Encyclopedia's are worng ok. But what happened on 9/11 was any act of terrorism. A plane was hijacked carhsed into TWTC and the pentagon and cased fear and alarm for people in NYC and the rest of the USA. -----signature----- Dark Lords of the JCC My Heros of Music Epica 1. Simone Simons 2. Mark Jansen 3. Yves Huts 4. Coen Janssen 5. Ad Sluijter 6. Jeroen Simons 1)ROTS 2)TESB 3)TPM 4)AOTC 5)ANH 6)ROTJ
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Binary_Sunset Registered: Oct '00	Date Posted: 2/1/03 9:09pm Subject: RE: Terrorism - Q and A/Discussion
	You're right. They did commit acts of terrorism. I don't think I expressed myself clearly. Here are some things I believe or at least suspect: 1. The nineteen men who hijacked the three jets were not part of a larger ring of terrorists. 2. Osama bin Ladin had nothing to do with it. 3. Al-Qaeda had nothing to do with it. 4. The Taliban had nothing to do with it. 5. No one in Afghanistan had anything to do with it. 6. Saddam Hussein had nothing to do with it. 7. No one in Iraq had anything to do with it. 8. No one on earth (other than the nineteen) had anything to do with it. Further, the motives of the nineteen men are so murky as to be incomprehensible. They had no clear agenda. That's why I say it was a bar bet made my morons. That at least makes more sense than thinking they were part of a worldwide web of terrorists.
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redxavier Registered: Jan '03	Date Posted: 2/1/03 9:09pm Subject: RE: Terrorism - Q and A/Discussion
	I had a thought the other day about 9/11 (should always come with hazard warnings) - ever notice how the planes fly directly into the towers? Let me elaborate. If you're going to crash into a tower, with the intent to kill as many people as possible, you'd hit it as close to the bottom as you could. Why then do the planes fly horizontally into the towers (especially the second one) instead of attempt to dive into them? Answer - Could they have been remotely piloted? Anyone ever see the pilot of the LONE GUNMEN? (X-files spin-off) Its plot is spookily similar to 9/11. Also, these terrorists are, like the poster above commented, REALLY stupid. If you really wanted to destroy the US, you'd bomb the Senate during a State of the Union Address... -----signature----- They're in the right places for just the right amount of time because [George] has a gift for knowing how long to leave a shot on the screen before you start seeing the seams. RICHARD EDLUND 1983
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Binary_Sunset Registered: Oct '00	Date Posted: 2/1/03 9:17pm Subject: RE: Terrorism - Q and A/Discussion
	If you really wanted to destroy the US, you'd bomb the Senate during a State of the Union Address... Very good point. That would get them all but one. There are so many ways to spread terror in the US that it's not even funny. Further, these possibilities are extraordinarily easy. Remember the Maryland snipers? If there really are cells of terrorists just itching to nail the US, why not do some sniping? Why not go to Big R, load up your truck with chemical supplies, and drive it into a government building (a la Oklahoma City)? The US provided lots of Sting missiles to the Afghans when the US called them "freedom fighters" (now known as "terrorists"). Why not take a few shots at some passenger jets? Why not at Air Force 1? Why not buy a gun and shoot the President? Oswald did it. Hinkley (sp?) did it. If a lone gunman and a madman can do it, it should be a snap for a worldwide network of terrorists led by a mastermind. Unless, of course, they don't exist...
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redxavier Registered: Jan '03	Date Posted: 2/1/03 9:23pm Subject: RE: Terrorism - Q and A/Discussion
	You've got a very good point there B_S. In fact, the only reason why we believe Osama Bin Laden even exists is because of the media. However, if you believe Oswald was acting alone, then... -----signature----- They're in the right places for just the right amount of time because [George] has a gift for knowing how long to leave a shot on the screen before you start seeing the seams. RICHARD EDLUND 1983
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Binary_Sunset Registered: Oct '00	Date Posted: 2/1/03 9:51pm Subject: RE: Terrorism - Q and A/Discussion
	Well, I have no doubts that Osama exists. I do doubt that he's a terrorist mastermind aching to terrorize the US. As for Oswald, I must admit I've never studied the issue.
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redxavier Registered: Jan '03	Date Posted: 2/1/03 9:59pm Subject: RE: Terrorism - Q and A/Discussion
	I would recommend just watching Oliver Stone's JFK, it essentially introduces all the fantastical elements about the shooting itself - magic bullets, blocking trees, up to six shots, grassy knoll etc. and all in a fun entertaining way as well! I would also point out that the movie features actual film of the assassination, with Kennedy getting much of his head blown off - it is very unpleasant. I often think about learning arabic so that I can understand for myself, ever notice how the US use the idea of 'hidden codes' to mute Osama? He also looks unusually calm for the most wanted man on the planet... -----signature----- They're in the right places for just the right amount of time because [George] has a gift for knowing how long to leave a shot on the screen before you start seeing the seams. RICHARD EDLUND 1983
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Jansons_Funny_Twin Registered: Jul '02	Date Posted: 2/2/03 12:02am Subject: RE: Terrorism - Q and A/Discussion
	Binary opens mouth closes mouth opens mouth closes mouth I am speechless... Are you freakin' kidding me?!?!? Are you serious?!? -----signature----- "GAIUS H. CHRIST!" - My younger brother. "you guys, you're so cute with your anal rape and man love" - lexu For Khaz Modan! "IGNORE ME!"
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JediBeowulf Registered: Feb '01	Date Posted: 2/2/03 12:45am Subject: RE: Terrorism - Q and A/Discussion
	What the Hiz-ell? Has the Senate Forum been inundated with Conspiracy Theorists? Has all sanity left us? "Osama had nothing to do with it [9-11]"????? I suppose you all have an answer for who's committing the terrorism in Israel too huh? Or what about India? Feel lucky and want to explain the Phillipines too? Like Janson, I am also speechless.
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anidanami124 Registered: Aug '02	Date Posted: 2/2/03 2:50am Subject: RE: Terrorism - Q and A/Discussion
	Like the last two people said Binary_Sunset. I'm speechless I can't beileve you beileve this. But you know I have better things to do then debit this with you. People can give you as many facts as they want it won't help so I'm not going to even try. -----signature----- Dark Lords of the JCC My Heros of Music Epica 1. Simone Simons 2. Mark Jansen 3. Yves Huts 4. Coen Janssen 5. Ad Sluijter 6. Jeroen Simons 1)ROTS 2)TESB 3)TPM 4)AOTC 5)ANH 6)ROTJ
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Binary_Sunset Registered: Oct '00	Date Posted: 2/2/03 8:35am Subject: RE: Terrorism - Q and A/Discussion
	It's simple, really. If someone told me that there are pink flamingos in my hometown, I'd like to see one. Pink flamingos should really stand out, so when I don't see any I start to think there aren't any. Similarly, where are the terrorists? I'm supposed to believe stuff such as: 1. Osama bin Laden is a multimillionaire terrorist mastermind who is at the head of a worldwide network of terrorists known as al-Qaeda who want to destroy the USA. 2. Al-Qaeda has been up to its tricks for years on end. Remember, bin Laden has four major goals: 1. Get U.S. troops out of Saudi Arabia. 2. Get Israel out of Palestine. 3. Get U.S. troops out of Afghanistan. 4. Get the U.S. off Iraq's back How did 9-11 accomplish any of those goals? It didn't help those goals in the slightest. If bin Laden is half the terrorist mastermind he's supposed to be, he would have known that. What would work? Flood D.C. restaurants with al Qaeda operatives disguised as waiters. Poison U.S. politicians who stand in the way of the above four goals. It's quick. It's easy. It's cheap. It's effective. The fact that they aren't doing this (or one of a dozen other things) indicates that these millionaire, mastermind, fanatical terrorists out to get the US don't exist. If they did exist, many U.S. politicians would have been dead a long time ago.
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Jansons_Funny_Twin Registered: Jul '02	Date Posted: 2/2/03 8:51am Subject: RE: Terrorism - Q and A/Discussion
	Ignorance is bliss. If someone told me that there are pink flamingos in my hometown, I'd like to see one. Pink flamingos should really stand out, so when I don't see any I start to think there aren't any. Have you ever seen a million dollars? Have you ever seen oxygen? Gravity? Wind? Seeing isn't neccesary for it to be true. 1. Osama bin Laden is a multimillionaire terrorist mastermind who is at the head of a worldwide network of terrorists known as al-Qaeda who want to destroy the USA. Yes. He's gotten a whole hell of a lot of money from family buisnesses. It is well documented. 2. Al-Qaeda has been up to its tricks for years on end. They claim responsibility for it all the time. Remember, bin Laden has four major goals: He has more than that. 1. Get U.S. troops out of Saudi Arabia. That's the official reason anyway. 2. Get Israel out of Palestine. He doesn't give a crap about Palestine, he's just using it to gain support from other Arabs. 3. Get U.S. troops out of Afghanistan. We weren't in Afghanistan back then. 4. Get the U.S. off Iraq's back He doesn't give a &%@ about Iraq. Iraq is a secular state, and Bin Laden hates that. How did 9-11 accomplish any of those goals? It didn't help those goals in the slightest. If bin Laden is half the terrorist mastermind he's supposed to be, he would have known that.* That's the thing with many terrorists, they don't seem to see the logic. You really think that the attack didn't help them a bit? It brought U.S. troops into the spot light, and helped to generate some bad feelings toward Americans in Saudi Arabia. What would work? Flood D.C. restaurants with al Qaeda operatives disguised as waiters. Poison U.S. politicians who stand in the way of the above four goals. It's quick. It's easy. It's cheap. It's effective. Wrong, wrong, wrong, and wrong. It is impossible to poison so many people at once, especially seeing as many of them eat at so many different restaraunts (if they go to restaraunts at all). It is not possible to do what you say. The fact that they aren't doing this (or one of a dozen other things) indicates that these millionaire, mastermind, fanatical terrorists out to get the US don't exist. If they did exist, many U.S. politicians would have been dead a long time ago. Politicians aren't their targets. Also, they are biding their time. We hurt them badly, and they are scared to do anything for the time being. Please, if you're going to be so bloody ignorant about this, just don't bother posting in here. I don't feel like listening to someone prattle on and on like a fool. -----signature----- "GAIUS H. CHRIST!" - My younger brother. "you guys, you're so cute with your anal rape and man love" - lexu For Khaz Modan! "IGNORE ME!"
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