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lordvaderFF
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Date Posted:
2/6/03 3:00pm
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3PO's lack of memory
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Cannon tells us that 3PO has been in operation for a great number of years by the time Ep4 rolls around. It also says that he is one of the few droids never to have had his memory erased.
So why is it that he doesn't remember Tatooine or Obi-Wan.
I know people will say "Well those parts of the story weren't written when Ep4 was made" but we do know George had all nine parts "roughed out" before he made the original.
Thoughts?
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Shara_82
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It also says that he is one of the few droids never to have had his memory erased.
Where did it say that, I can't remember reading it? I've always just assumed he must have.
Anyway, if his memory is fully intact, I can't say I really have an explanation for it - after all, 3PO certainly doesn't seem to have any recollection of the name Obi-Wan Kenobi, does he?
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2/6/03 5:02pm
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The answer, like Palpatine's Emergency Powers, lies in the Radio Dramas.
Threepio and Artoo can have their memories 'locked' by voice activation.
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Ah, so who do we think locked them? I would guess it was Obi-Wan. So as to protect Luke and Leia from Palpatine, Vader, and anyone else with an interest he made sure the two droids did not remember the circumstances that took place at the time they were born. C3PO certainly wasn't able to keep secrets very well.
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Also, Padme could lock them.
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lordvaderFF
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There could lie the answer.
Padme locks their memories to protect the information about the twins from the Emperor and Vader.
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Qui-Gon Tim
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I think it all relies on the fact that George Lucas' memory is locked. 
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c3po's memory is DEFINATELY erased in EPIII.
R2' is most likely erased also. {though the original plan was for r2's not to be erased {as can be seen with the phantom menace pants}
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Darth-Stryphe
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Yeah, GL made mention in an interview last year their memory would be erased. It's not their memory I wonder about, it's Ben's.
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Ben certainly didn't have a problem bending the truth to suit his purposes. He said that he didn't recall owning any droids - unless something changes in ep 3, then that's true. He didn't say he'd never met the droids before, though. And considering what else he'd hidden from Luke, I wouldn't be surprised if he'd bent the truth about the droids too.
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Darth-Stryphe
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Technically, he didn't own the droids, Jedi don't have property. I guess his droid in AOTC would have been government issue, or something like that.
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Right. The droid didn't belong to him personally. He would have no reason to expect that a droid would come looking for him.
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I'm sure Ben recognised the droids, but it's always possible for him to pretend that he had never seen them before. If he knew that the memories of the droids were erased, it would be even more convenient to do so, if not Luke would wonder why Ben knew the droids but not the other way round. This would definitely have made Luke even more suspicious.
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Ben does give hints that he recognises R2 in ANH, but as of now he still hasnt seen C3PO.
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If anybody watches the scene where Owen purchases Threepio, Threepio never introduces himself. He has new coverings, and it has been 25 years since they have seen each other. And of course Threepio had a memory wipe.
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2/9/03 9:15am
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"I guess his droid in AOTC would have been government issue, or something like that."
R2D3 belongs to Padme, and spends most time with her.
C3PO belongs to Anakin, and just recently joins him in AOTC.
Droid in Jedi starship belongs to Jedi order. It's one of many, just like the numerous "hyperdrive" units orbiting Coruscant.
Keep in mind, Yoda and Obi-wan didn't want Luke to know that Leia was Luke's sister (for whatever reason), so it would be in Obi-wan's best interests to avoid the topic of knowing R2, hence the "don't recall owning a droid" line.
Whether or not Lucas had this originally in mind, it still fits together well.
"the scene where Owen purchases Threepio, Threepio never introduces himself."
Furthermore, he says his first job was programming binary loaders. Owen knows what C3PO's "first" job was with him. If Owen did recognize C3PO, he could reasonably assume by this response that C3PO's memory has been wiped. Later, when Luke mentions Obi-wan, Owen realizes that the R2 unit has his knowlegde intact, and tells Luke to have them both wiped for safe measure.
BTW, the "locked memory" theory has great potential. We don't know for certain what Leia told R2 at the beginning of ANH. Perhaps she was given the "unlock" code by her father, to be used in a dire situation. When the Star Destroyer comes up, she remembers her father's story about Obi-wan, gives R2 the "unlock" code, and records her special message. Hence, R2 arrives at Tatooine will full knowledge. This works, folks.
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