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Danaan Registered: Apr '08	Date Posted: 5/26 7:57am Subject: What plotline, character or scene in the entire Saga irritates you the most?
	EECHUUTA posted: Rev posted: Scene Anakin's turn to the Dark Side It isn't Anakin himself or his motivations that actually brings this scene down. It's Ian McDiarmid's acting. I've seen villains on the campy '60s Batman series that were more compelling. Once the technology advances far enough, I seriously hope the entire sequence, beginning with Anakin discovering Palpatine's identity, is replaced with photo-realistic computer-generated imagery depicting the events as they occurred in the Revenge of the Sith novelization. It's that bad. I agree. I didn't like when Sidious was making all those funny faces and making those heavy breathing sounds, they detracted from the seriousness of those scenes. I find ROTJ's Sidious more chilling and evil then I do ROTS Sidious, simply because Ian lets his character ooze evil, instead of forcing it. That's because Lucas didn't direct ROTJ. Has anyone noticed that Ian's makeup post "face melting" is actually quite different from his makeup in ROTJ - AND that the reduxed Vader talks to Palpatine scene in ESB actually has the Emperor wearing the ROTS makeup, not the ROTJ makeup. That bugs me to no end, it's just another disruption to the sense of continuity between the two trilogies... -----signature----- Star Wars Episode 1: The Old Order - novellized on request (In progress) http://boards.theforce.net/Message.aspx?topic=29250109&brd=10476
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halibut Title: FF GSA & FF-UK RSA / Saga Mod Registered: Aug '00	Date Posted: 5/26 8:04am Subject: What plotline, character or scene in the entire Saga irritates you the most?
	Danaan posted: That's because Lucas didn't direct ROTJ. Maybe not according to the credits, but it's well known that he pretty much did. According to a magazine interview with Irvin Kershner in May 2004, Kershner states that Richard Marquand didn't direct all of ROTJ, it was Kershner's assistant director and George Lucas who took over after the actors didn't respond very well to Richard Marquand. -----signature----- They are not "songs", they are "tracks" or "cues" ROTJ - "It has a nice mix of muppets and patricide that you don't see very often" - Darthboba Everybody knows that the bird is the word!
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Darth-Johnny-Cash Registered: Jan '09	Date Posted: 5/29 4:19am Subject: What plotline, character or scene in the entire Saga irritates you the most?
	^^^^If thats true its a pity he didn't direct the PT as good as ROTJ. -----signature----- "If you can still eat pizza, despite it not being your favorite, then you are tolerant of pizza. If you refuse to eat it because you don't like it, then you are intolerant of the pizza." The immortal words of Go-Mer-Tonic
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shadesofkin Registered: Jun '09	Date Posted: 6/5 3:00pm Subject: What plotline, character or scene in the entire Saga irritates you the most?
	I suppose like any fan there are things I feel "betrayed" about in the PT but all in all, I've gotten over that as time's gone by. My biggest beef: Lando wears a cape. I've never understood how that was in any way cool, I don't mind the character, I think he's great, but a cape? -----signature----- There's only one Return, and it's not of the King, it's of the Jedi. My other car is the Millenium Falcon
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DeadOrAlive Registered: May '09	Date Posted: 6/5 11:24pm Subject: What plotline, character or scene in the entire Saga irritates you the most?
	Good point!
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Darthbane2007 Registered: Oct '07	Date Posted: 6/6 5:55am Subject: What plotline, character or scene in the entire Saga irritates you the most?
	shadesofkin posted: I suppose like any fan there are things I feel "betrayed" about in the PT but all in all, I've gotten over that as time's gone by. My biggest beef: Lando wears a cape. I've never understood how that was in any way cool, I don't mind the character, I think he's great, but a cape? I never got that either. Is he supposed to be a black superman?
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Danaan Registered: Apr '08	Date Posted: 6/6 3:22pm Subject: What plotline, character or scene in the entire Saga irritates you the most?
	starwarsobesses posted: anakin_girl posted: True, which is what irritated me the most about his character, that and the whole "I am the Chosen One" arrogance. Other than that, well, my screen name says how much I like him. He had to have those characteristics to show his darker side. There is "show those characteristics" and then there is "hit people over the head with them like he's wielding a sledgehammer". Subtelty goes a long way here, and the lack of it just makes him come across as a whiny brat that I, for one, can't feel any sympathy for at all... -----signature----- Star Wars Episode 1: The Old Order - novellized on request (In progress) http://boards.theforce.net/Message.aspx?topic=29250109&brd=10476
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KellyLCrutcher Registered: Feb '09	Date Posted: 6/25 12:48pm Subject: What plotline, character or scene in the entire Saga irritates you the most? - Date Edited: 6/25 1:03pm (2 edits total) Edited By: KellyLCrutcher
	PLOTLINE: Palpatine's practically wearing a big, invisible sign around his neck that reads "Sith Lord" and none of the heroes/heroines see it until it's too late! When I first saw "Revenge of the Sith and heard Anakin's words: "You're the Sith Lord" my personal, internal reaction was "Well, no poodoo! They should have seen it before they made him Chancellor!" SCENE: Where Jar-Jar votes they give the "emergency powers" to Palpatine in ATOC- Don't get me wrong here; I like Jar-Jar's character. But because of HIM, Palpatine gained control! This scene irritates the poodoo out of me. CHARACTER: Obi-Wan in Episode 3 where he cuts Anakin's legs and arm off and just leaves him to die on Mustafar- he picks up Anakin's lightsaber and walks off without looking back- all this while, he's saying "I loved you like a brother" and he leaves him to die. Someone above said the same thing about Obi-Wan and I agree wholeheartedly. When I saw Vader cut Kenobi down in ESB I actually grinned. -----signature----- Sith Apprentice to Sith Master Gurthrim_Lah "You don't know the power of the Dark Side of the Force!" Darth Vader, Empire Strikes Back
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halibut Title: FF GSA & FF-UK RSA / Saga Mod Registered: Aug '00	Date Posted: 6/25 12:57pm Subject: What plotline, character or scene in the entire Saga irritates you the most?
	KellyLCrutcher posted: SCENE: Where Jar-Jar votes they give the "emergency powers" to Palpatine in ATOC- Don't get me wrong here; I like Jar-Jar's character. But because of HIM, Palpatine gained control of the senate! This scene irritates the poodoo out of me. But surely such a scene was necessary. We know from the OT that Palps (or Sidious if you hadn't picked up that they were the same at this point) has to take control somehow. It's a necessary evil. Had this scene not been in it, how would you perceive the Emperor taking control? -----signature----- They are not "songs", they are "tracks" or "cues" ROTJ - "It has a nice mix of muppets and patricide that you don't see very often" - Darthboba Everybody knows that the bird is the word!
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KellyLCrutcher Registered: Feb '09	Date Posted: 6/25 1:10pm Subject: What plotline, character or scene in the entire Saga irritates you the most? - Date Edited: 6/25 1:12pm (2 edits total) Edited By: KellyLCrutcher
	halibut posted: But surely such a scene was necessary. We know from the OT that Palps (or Sidious if you hadn't picked up that they were the same at this point) has to take control somehow. It's a necessary evil. Had this scene not been in it, how would you perceive the Emperor taking control? You're right on it being a necessary evil. It's just that I envisioned someone like Nute Gunray or another Neimodian voting Sidious into power instead. The Neimodians supported Sidious from the beginning. -----signature----- Sith Apprentice to Sith Master Gurthrim_Lah "You don't know the power of the Dark Side of the Force!" Darth Vader, Empire Strikes Back
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Korrigan Registered: Jun '09	Date Posted: 6/27 1:38am Subject: What plotline, character or scene in the entire Saga irritates you the most? - Date Edited: 6/27 1:39am (1 edits total) Edited By: Korrigan
	For me, what I dislike the most is definitely the whole Dark Empire crap, with the cheesy repeated resurrections of the Emperor. That crap should never have made it canon. In comparison, things like Jar Jar Binks or Midichlorians become very acceptable, and the whole movie content is utterly excellent.
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halibut Title: FF GSA & FF-UK RSA / Saga Mod Registered: Aug '00	Date Posted: 6/27 3:26am Subject: What plotline, character or scene in the entire Saga irritates you the most?
	KellyLCrutcher posted: halibut posted: But surely such a scene was necessary. We know from the OT that Palps (or Sidious if you hadn't picked up that they were the same at this point) has to take control somehow. It's a necessary evil. Had this scene not been in it, how would you perceive the Emperor taking control? You're right on it being a necessary evil. It's just that I envisioned someone like Nute Gunray or another Neimodian voting Sidious into power instead. The Neimodians supported Sidious from the beginning. Perhaps we should rename it "The Tragedy of Jar Jar Binks" -----signature----- They are not "songs", they are "tracks" or "cues" ROTJ - "It has a nice mix of muppets and patricide that you don't see very often" - Darthboba Everybody knows that the bird is the word!
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BrianD2 Registered: Jul '09	Date Posted: 7/3 6:13am Subject: What plotline, character or scene in the entire Saga irritates you the most?
	halibut posted: [quote=KellyLCrutcher]But surely such a scene was necessary. We know from the OT that Palps (or Sidious if you hadn't picked up that they were the same at this point) has to take control somehow. It's a necessary evil. Had this scene not been in it, how would you perceive the Emperor taking control? The same way we perceived the Emperor disbanding the Imperial Senate in A New Hope, preferably. Political maneuvering kind of kills epic space fantasy. A good quarter of the prequel trilogy is practically Star C-SPAN. The only times you had a bunch of people sitting around in a room talking in Episodes IV-VI were when they were planning on blowing something up. My least favorite character, hands down, is anything computer generated, especially in The Phantom Menace. Even now, only a decade later, looks ridiculously dated whereas the original trilogy's puppets have actually held up remarkably well. Probably 'cause they were real. They didn't just look real, they were real. They weren't alive, sure, and they certainly weren't actually tiny Jedi Masters or big slimy crime bosses, but they existed on a set and were filmed alongside the actors instead of being 0's and 1's arranged in post-production to look like something. Another pain in my ass with the prequels? The weapons of war changing every damn movie. X-Wings, Y-Wings, TIE Fighters, Star Destroyers, Imperial walkers, all this stuff got at least two movies with enough face time for them to be interesting. Even when you add in B-Wings and TIE Interceptors and speeder bikes later, there's still enough in common from film to film. Nothing in the prequels was even remotely iconic or cool, and the worst part is some of them did seem pretty badass, you just didn't get a chance to give a crap. Worst scene from the original trilogy (I'm not even gonna touch I-III, every scene has something I don't like in it, be it poor dialogue, poor directing, poor acting, poor plotting, or any combination of the above) might be dinner at the Lars' homestead. "I think he died about the same time as your father." Okay, fair. "He knew my father?" Wow. Pretty big conclusion to jump to there. People who die at similar times MUST know each other in this huge galaxy, right? "I told you to forget it." When? Proof that Lucas couldn't write even back in 1977. Thank god Harrison Ford was there to change "I love you, too" into "I know".
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Ambassador Cara Jade Registered: Oct '99	Date Posted: 7/4 11:51pm Subject: What plotline, character or scene in the entire Saga irritates you the most?
	Oh, let's see... We could go with the fantastic midichlorians idea, completely demystifying the Force? Why God why? Or the "Forbidden Love" thing? There was absolutely no reason for Anakin's and Padme's relationship to be secret, and it sent the entire EU into major retcon mode. Totally pointless. Those are just two off the top of my head. I'm sure that with more time I could think of more, lol. -----signature----- Yeah, I have my own icon. Visit the Callista Fans Thread http://boards.theforce.net/eu_community/b10194/23653771/p1
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jedijason330 Registered: Jul '05	Date Posted: 7/6 3:27am Subject: What plotline, character or scene in the entire Saga irritates you the most?
	As far as plotlines go, I could have done without the midichlorians. Honestly, I really didn't catch this at first, since I only started watching Star Wars 5 years ago, and started with TPM. But these little "bugs" take away from everything that is explained about the Force in the OT. Characters, its time to bash a few of you. Jar Jar. He just bugs. Not as much as he did, but I could have done without all the silliness in TPM. I really wasn't down with the racers at the pod-race or the two-headed announcer. Maybe it was the really badly done CGI ones. The dancers/singers in Jabba's palace are horrid no matter what. The original and redone scenes make me cringe everytime I watch them. And lastly, Ewoks. Would someone explain to me how a bunch of teddy bears took down the empire? It makes no sense whatsoever. Scenes-I think the absolutely worst scene for me was the whole dance/song sequence in Jabba's palace. Yikes! I can't really think of too many others I really hate. How about lines? "Only a Sith deals in absolutes." That kinda drives me nuts, when Obi-Wan himself is dealing in absolutes every single day. -----signature----- May The Force Be With You GO LOBOS!
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