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ObiWan506
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Not to mention the fact that he pronounces names and planets incorrectly ... or correctly, depending on your point of view. 
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Vortigern99
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Sithspit87 posted:
I saw an interview with George where he looked like a babbaling fool. They were interviewing him about the new Clone Wars TV Show and he told the person interviewing him that the clone wars take place between episodes 1 and 2. C'mon George. Plus at Celebration III he confused Jay Lagiea(sp) with Bodie Taylor the whole interiew. Niether Rick McCallum or Jay corrected him either, because he is George Lucas. Granted Jay and Bodie look alike, but the Director should now his own actors. He looked like a fool. I don't think we will see him at a Con anytime soon due to that. I think George really does not have the knowlage of the Universe he created that he should and theat disapoints me.
People misspeak all the time; I don't hold it against them. We're only human, after all. Obviously Lucas knows the CWs happen after AOTC; he just misspoke. And if no one corrected his misidentifying two actors, including the very people he misnamed, I for one blame all involved. They could have made it a funny moment -- "Uh, no, 'Rick', I'm actually Jay" -- rather than sweating through it without saying a word.
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Sithspit87
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Vortigern99 posted:
People misspeak all the time; I don't hold it against them. We're only human, after all. Obviously Lucas knows the CWs happen after AOTC; he just misspoke. And if no one corrected his misidentifying two actors, including the very people he misnamed, I for one blame all involved. They could have made it a funny moment -- "Uh, no, 'Rick', I'm actually Jay" -- rather than sweating through it without saying a word.
Maybe he misspoke about his iterview about the clone wars, but at CIII he did not just accidently call Jay by another name like my mom some times accidently calls me by my brothers nam and vica versa occasionly, but he literaly thought he was some one else. He he kept it up the whole iterview talking to Jay about how many versions of Jay we were going to see as clones and what not in ROTS. I persnally think it is a big deal when a Movie director can not idintify their own actors.
I will leave it, at this I think George as the basic knowledge of the movies he wrote, but I think he has very little knowledge of of the in depth things that were helped devoloped by other people, in the movies and the EU. Also I will give him props because, I do believe he has a talent for story telling, and writing storys has we have seen over the past 31yrs.
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Vortigern99 posted:
People misspeak all the time; I don't hold it against them. We're only human, after all. Obviously Lucas knows the CWs happen after AOTC; he just misspoke.
I agree. Some like to say George Lucas isn't infallible (which is true, no one is infallible) when others speak positively of him, but then they, themselves don't allow him to be fallible. They attack him for it. They accuse others of making him out to be above mistakes (which no one is above making mistakes) and then they, themselves attack him for not being above making mistakes.
George Lucas is only human. Allow him to be.
And I was there at STAR WARS CELEBRATION III for George Lucas' show during the mistaken identity situation. It can be embarrasing and unfortunate, but he's human. It happens.
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Sithspit87 posted:
Vortigern99 posted:
People misspeak all the time; I don't hold it against them. We're only human, after all. Obviously Lucas knows the CWs happen after AOTC; he just misspoke. And if no one corrected his misidentifying two actors, including the very people he misnamed, I for one blame all involved. They could have made it a funny moment -- "Uh, no, 'Rick', I'm actually Jay" -- rather than sweating through it without saying a word.
Maybe he misspoke about his iterview about the clone wars, but at CIII he did not just accidently call Jay by another name like my mom some times accidently calls me by my brothers nam and vica versa occasionly, but he literaly thought he was some one else. He he kept it up the whole iterview talking to Jay about how many versions of Jay we were going to see as clones and what not in ROTS. I persnally think it is a big deal when a Movie director can not idintify their own actors.
Yeah, thats pretty embarrassing. If this is an indication of the actor-director relationship, which it clearly is, it goes a long way to explaining the totally lost, "I'm reading these lines on the page but I don't really know what this is supposed to be" performances in that film. People don't correct Lucas because at first they wonder what he's actually talking about, then they realise he doesn't know who he's even talking to, then its really awkward and very uncomfortable to speak up and point this out so they keep quiet at first, then they think maybe he'll realise it on his own, but then after a bit they realise no he won't ever realise on his own, but by then over five minutes has gone by and it would be too humiliating to point out your boss is an idiot in front of a giant crowd of fans and media come to pay him respect so everyone keeps quite even though everyone knows. You know stuff like this happens all the time with twit bosses and clueless movie moguls, its just sad to see Lucas share so much in common with them. Although if I was Jay, I would have spoken up because thats kind of personally insulting and its not like Jay is really on the Lucasfilm pay roll anyway, he has no reason to protect Lucas' pride when his own is being hurt, but I guess Jay must be a pretty gracefull fellow.
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Sithspit87 posted:
Maybe he misspoke about his iterview about the clone wars, but at CIII he did not just accidently call Jay by another name like my mom some times accidently calls me by my brothers nam and vica versa occasionly, but he literaly thought he was some one else. He he kept it up the whole iterview talking to Jay about how many versions of Jay we were going to see as clones and what not in ROTS. I persnally think it is a big deal when a Movie director can not idintify their own actors.
Did his tone and disposition indicate nervousness? I have acute social anxiety, and have made an absolute fool of myself when speaking before a crowd.
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He's not a director. That's why he only directed 6 movies when he could have directed four times as many.
And I think he only directed the PT because he really has a passion for "Star Wars".
I think he had more of a passion for the PT than he did for the OT.
He only directed his first three movies because he really had no choice.
These movies were never about stellar acting performances. These were always just kid movies.
Lucas probably knew Captain Typho for four or five days. Seriously, how many scenes is Captain Typho in?
He's in four or five spread out over 2 movies. He's in one scene in "ROTS". Are there any deleted scenes with him?
He's in three scenes in "AOTC". He may be in four scenes but I don't feel like seeing if he ran into Padme's bedroom when the giant bugs where going to kill her.
Captain Typho was in 3 or maybe 4 scenes that George Lucas directed three to five years before Celebration III took place. Then Captain Typho is in 1 scene that George Lucas directed a year before Celebration III. So how long do you think it took to film these scenes with Captain Typho? I say probably 20 hours, maybe 30 and most of that was focused on Padme, Obi, and Anakin. So G.L. is supposed to remember this guy from working with him 3 or 4 years ago for about 20 or 30 hours on a movie that isn't about acting performances.
Maybe George should have known who the man was sitting next to him but like was mentioned earlier. Those two guy look very much alike. Captain Typho should have felt good about himself because George Lucas was accusing him of looking like a man who was over ten years his junior.
Remember how proud ILM was of their completely digital helmetless clones that featured a unique head design that was a digital blend between Taylor and Morrison's features. Lucas was just caught up in the glory of ILM.
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I'd say he knows the broad story(like NZPoe said"story and where his characters are going and how they get there" with alot of these overly pretentious ideas being fans over analyzing.
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Darth-Stryphe posted:
The quoting of GL as definitive proof that a certain interpretation is "right".
That depends on how much you believe\trust him. You just have to decide that for yourself, I'd say.
It also depends on your view of art given that one could think he's completely honest about his intent but also think that the artist's intent isn't the only valid interpretation of art.
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^ ^ ^
Yes, and the fact that even when we think we're being honest, the passing of significant periods of time can sometimes cloud our retrospective vision.
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It can. I have thought of that possibility.
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NZPoe posted:
To be fair to this - arguably bizzare - thread, I would say - despite being a Lucas fan - that old George DID have a phenomenal amount of PR being pushed around him in the 80's and 90's about the wealth of his "imagination".
This certainly created an air around him - for a lot of fans - that Lucas lives in Star-Wars-Land perpetually and he has "worked everything out". I don't blame fans - especially those who were kids in the 80's and 90's - for thinking that George Lucas is a walking Star Wars encyclopedia. Clearly that is not the case and has never been, despite what some PR in the 80's had subtextually implied.
But as the power of behind-the-scenes docos and DVD technology has shown, Lucas's main focus is in story and where his characters are going and how they get there. The rest is whimsy...and that is what's common with most people in Lucas's position.
Which is fine.
This is a very astute observation.
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morpha2 posted:
NZPoe posted:
To be fair to this - arguably bizzare - thread, I would say - despite being a Lucas fan - that old George DID have a phenomenal amount of PR being pushed around him in the 80's and 90's about the wealth of his "imagination".
This certainly created an air around him - for a lot of fans - that Lucas lives in Star-Wars-Land perpetually and he has "worked everything out". I don't blame fans - especially those who were kids in the 80's and 90's - for thinking that George Lucas is a walking Star Wars encyclopedia. Clearly that is not the case and has never been, despite what some PR in the 80's had subtextually implied.
But as the power of behind-the-scenes docos and DVD technology has shown, Lucas's main focus is in story and where his characters are going and how they get there. The rest is whimsy...and that is what's common with most people in Lucas's position.
Which is fine.
This is a very astute observation.
Yeah. Lucas knows the core Info of the characters and situations, but as for things such as What kind of lightsaber crystal Anakin has in his lightsaber, or what clan Shaak-Ti belonged to, he probably could care less.
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