Amph 007 Skyfall

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  1. George Roper Jedi Grand Master

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    Roger Moore was beyond horrible as Bond.
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  2. Rogue_Ten Chosen One

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    controversial opinion: the living daylights is the best bond film and the cello case sledding is the best bond action sequence

    disclaimer: i say this having not seen most bond films including all the connery ones so bite me i guess
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  3. SithLordDarthRichie London CR

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    So, if a reboot is a reboot because it disregards previous movie events and meetings, what is Skyfall?
    There are numerous references in it to previous movies Craig was not in.
  4. The_Four_Dot_Elipsis Force Ghost

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    Well, in the interest of continuity, at least one of his best acting moments comes as a reference to OHMSS (telling Anya to STHU about Tracy).

    Coming from someone who has seen all of the films many many times, I agree. Or, rather, it's my favourite. OHMSS and FRWL vie for the position of being the best films in the canon.

    Something about the alchemical mix of TLD just bloody well works. Exploding milk bottles and John Terry inclusive.
  5. Rogue1-and-a-half Manager Emeritus who is writing his masterpiece

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    I wouldn't call TLD the best or my favorite, but it's darn close to both.
  6. soitscometothis Force Ghost

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    It's never worked for me: too silly to be the gritty serious take Dalton's Bond was suited to, but not spectacular or fun enough to be really good as an over-the-top action flick. License to Kill, on the other hand, worked much better for Dalton, imo, and is one of my favourites.
  7. JoinTheSchwarz Comms Admin & Community Manager

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    I agree. While I loved LTK, TLD has always left me cold, no matter how good Dalton as Bond was.
  8. Ulicus Lit'ari

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    Sure... for the benefit of the audience. Just because there's reference to an exploding pen and ejecting people from their car seats doesn't mean that the original Bond run is suddenly in-continuity with the post-Casino Royale series, however. Especially since Skyfall's ending explicitly sets up the familiar "M/Moneypenny/hat stand" status quo of the originals as Craig!Bond's future, rather than his past.

    That being said, Craig!Bond had already experienced his own version of GoldenEye's events, if the Wii version of the game is to be believed. ;)
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  9. darthcaedus1138 Force Ghost

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    Well I watched Quantum of Solace, completing my run of the James Bond film canon.

    It was...pretty meh. I still love Craig, though having Quantum be the villain in the middle and then switch to Greene who was NEVER good, was definitely not smart. The film absolutely falls apart at the end, like they had too many ideas and wouldn't just focus in on one. A middling effort, though I'd definitely watch it sooner than the sea of **** that is Moore's films.

    What was up with the gunbarrel at the end? I liked how it was integrated into the movie for Casino Royale, but why put it at the end there?
  10. The_Four_Dot_Elipsis Force Ghost

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    That's not where it's assets lay. I like the intrigue, the fact that Bond is being manipulated into being a patsy (not unlike FRWL and FYEO), but also the fact that Bond himself is manipulating Kara and basically messing with her head.

    I love LTK as well, but the cheapness is overt, and some of Glen's schtick just doesn't fit in with the tone.

    That being said it does still function around the fascinating idea of Bond without MI6 getting in way over his head and relying on the Bond girl to save him. Which is the reason that Pam is the only true realisation of the "Bond has met his match" crap that EON seem to posit every second film.
  11. Ender Sai Chosen One

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    Yeah the scenes they wrote or rewrote for Dalton are fantastic - how ice cold a bastard is he with Pushkin, in the latter's hotel room? Or after the death of Saunders?

    The film suffers because of the the common theme that caused Bond films to suffer - Mooreitis.
  12. SithLordDarthRichie London CR

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    Newspaper article today claiming Craig had said he was fed-up of doing Bond and tried to get out of doing the role before Skyfall.

    Seems odd, every TV interview I've seen of him he says how much he likes doing it and how honoured he is to be a part of the franchise.


    Regarding the Quantum organisation in QoS, was it resolved who they were and who was in charge of them? I've seen the film maybe once since it was in the cinema and I find the plot a bit too wayward to remember everything that went on. It seemed as though Quantum was going to be the new SPECTRE, yet no mention of it was in Skyfall at all.
  13. darthcaedus1138 Force Ghost

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    From what I can recall from what I THINK they were trying to do in QoS, they're an international....terror? organization that works to destabilize governments when somebody else pays them to. There are a bunch of people who are high ups who Bond revealed at that play. But Greene was trying to hold onto the water supply for some Bolivian town....and was trying to do something with that one general to put him back into power. It was all very unclear.

    To the Bond Wiki!
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  14. Life Jedi Grand Master

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    I'm a fan of these guy's reviews.

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  15. Ender Sai Chosen One

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    That article was clearly rubbish, Ritchie.
  16. AAAAAH Jedi Grand Master

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    can't wait for this skiffles. janes bonz is going to do some amazing things in it, such as: shoot juli danch in the face.
  17. Ender Sai Chosen One

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    Thanks Flare.
  18. AAAAAH Jedi Grand Master

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    why do you guys think everybody is flare?
  19. Rogue_Ten Chosen One

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    i would watch this film actually
  20. AAAAAH Jedi Grand Master

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    that film opened tonight. i plan to watch it on saturday with a friend. i heard q is played by a goat encased in wax. i literally cannot wait.
  21. darthcaedus1138 Force Ghost

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    Never heard of that nickname for Ben Whishaw.
  22. Ender Sai Chosen One

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    Because your main username is banned, Jordan.
  23. tom Chosen One

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    pretty sure that's crem, or someone impersonating crem.

    hi crem or crem impersonator!
  24. AAAAAH Jedi Grand Master

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    hello tom! how have you been?
  25. Coruscant Force Ghost

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    Saw it. It was fantastic. Expectations met.

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    Visually speaking, I couldn't get enough of the climax. The silhouettes against the burning house was basically art.

    It appears the writer(s) learned from the example of TDK and villains very well.