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Republic Holonet News & CIS Shadowfeed Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'Literature' started by The2ndQuest , Feb 9, 2004.

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  1. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    EDIT- Expanding this thread's focus from just Issue #74 to all the HNN and SF editions printed in SW Insider.

    Newest Insider had some interesting tidbits in HNN and, more specificly, CIS SF (dated about 21 months ABG)- Durge is leading a major offensive (Operation Durge's Lance) along the Corellian Trade Spine.

    Launched from Yag'Dhul, Durge's forces consist of the 1st and 3rd fleets of the Confederacy Navy, and have used Givin calculations to circumvent Republic mining of the Trade Spine.

    In the article, Duro is currently under seige, with possible Republic reinforcements from Kuat and Nubia cut off by the Confederacy.

    The Confederacy broke through the system's outter defense- destroying four Golan platforms, three Acclamators and two Dreadnaughts, and have now secured the largest orbital city around the planet.

    The Republic forces remaining consist of "at least" four more Acclamators, another Dreadnaught and a Victory-class Destroyer .

    The fall of Duro is predicted within a week, according to CIS SF, and the next targeted world after Duro as the fleets move coreward will likely be Corellia.


    That's some heavy stuff going on there- I hope we get more of Operation Durge's Lance in the near future, and the appearance of a Victory-class is, to my knowledge, their first during the era.

    HNN, meanwhile, reports of the first group of advanced officers for the clones have graduated (with a comment by Alpha-17), and, in another article, the naming of Orman Tagge to the Analysis Bureau of Republic Intelligence, in an effort to close the technological gaps in the war (and he's pictured with one of those combat droids from the CW cartoon Rattatak mellee).

    EDIT- here's a link for the original HNN thread from when it first went online, and covers some of the earlier printed ones:

    HoloNet News Discussion Thread
     
  2. Pelranius

    Pelranius Jedi Master star 5

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    That's interesting.

    The CIS is more technologically advanced. I wonder what Durge's forces consist of?
     
  3. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    The article mentions only tri-droid fighters and vulture starfighters for the confederacy.

    The accompanying illustration shows droid starfighters and Geonosian starfighters assaulting what I assume is one of the cities. Several Techno Union starships can be seen in the background. It also mentions the originally launched forces were provisioned by supply lines from Sullust and Thyferra.


    On the other side, the Duro planetary-defense forces are supplemented by at leats one squadron of Jedi starfighters and two wings of V-19's.
     
  4. Mavrick889

    Mavrick889 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Cool...a Victory Star Destroyer!

    What are the dates given for HNN?
     
  5. AdmiralNick22

    AdmiralNick22 Retired Fleet Admiral star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    T2Q:

    As always, a good title.

    I look forward to getting the next Insider. Its about time that they mention space battles in the Clone Wars.

    When does it hit newstands?

    --Nick
     
  6. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    HNN has 15.2.22 while CIS SF is 15.2.29


    Hmm...reading the wording now- they don't call it a star destroyer, justa destroyer...think there's actually a difference between a vic-class destroyer and a vic-class star destroyer?
     
  7. AdmiralNick22

    AdmiralNick22 Retired Fleet Admiral star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I don't think so.

    It is well established that the Victory class Star Destroyer was introduced towards the end of the Clone Wars. Seems like the perfect time to mention one.

     
  8. President_Sharky

    President_Sharky Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I was actually expecting for the Victory-class Star Destroyer to be introduced sometime next year, closer to 30 months ABG. Sources usually say the VSD came in at the end of the war, but we're still in the middle of the whole thing.

    If we wanted to get really cheap, we could pull a Defender and say that the Victory-class destroyer is a completely different ship than the SD, perhaps more of a traditional destroyer, meant to escort the Acclamators into battle.

    It seems, however, that my prayers have been answered, and that HNN is finally showing some strategy on the part of the CIS. They've shown that the Seperatists indeed do have an organized navy, as opposed to numerous battle droid regiments stationed on rebelling planets.

    After 1.5 years of fighting, the CIS has organized itself into a united entity, or at least a conglameration of worlds with unified armed forces (perhaps something like NATO or the Warsaw Pact).

    Furthermore, the CIS seems to have formulated strategic goals, something that was lacking in the early months (Jabiim, Aargonar, Caartao) in which it seemed like they were only supporting rebellions on numerous planets. But now we can see that they have consolidated their gains and have launched an assault on the Republic, and look at that, on Core Worlds!

    This is a dream come true, finally we are seeing heavily populated worlds begin to feel the devastation of the Clone War. It finally has become a true "War". Hopefully the Republic comic and upcoming Clone Wars novels will expand on the overall strategies and offensives carried out by both the Republic and the CIS.
     
  9. President_Sharky

    President_Sharky Jedi Padawan star 4

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    However, one must wonder why the Republic had 5 Acclamator-class troop ships stationed as part of Duro's defence? They are not fit for deep-space combat, how can this be emphasised further with the writers? These ships are not battlecruisers! Hey, even the NEGtVV got THAT fact correct.

    Doesn't Duro have a shipyard? They should have been able to build a flotilla of Duros (or CEC if they own the yards) warships to protect the system.

    I guess we can rationalize that the Republic pulled most of Duro's defences (i.e. battleships, cruisers, gunships, frigates) out of the system prior to the offensive and placed them in the Corellian system to help defend the CEC shipyards or maybe they were assigned to other Core Worlds threatened by CIS fleets.

    I wonder if the Republic will make a half-hearted attempt to defend Corellia, seeing as that system has withdrawn from the Senate and has become isolationalist. The Republic probably won't sacrifice much for a deserting system, especially considering the multitude of loyal Core Worlds now threatened by the CIS.
     
  10. Pelranius

    Pelranius Jedi Master star 5

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    What roles do organic soldiers (ie Nemodians, Genosians) play in the CIS military?
     
  11. jangofett100

    jangofett100 Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Best. HoloNet News. EVER.
     
  12. Excellence

    Excellence Jedi Knight star 7

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    A Vicstar mention is exciting news?
     
  13. jangofett100

    jangofett100 Jedi Youngling star 1

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    The mere mention of a clone wars space battle is exciting to me! ;)

    P.S Howsabout some info on the clone officers?
     
  14. Mike-Sunrider

    Mike-Sunrider Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Is this just for the insider or it will appear in Books or comics?
     
  15. Raven

    Raven Administrator Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    A Vicstar mention is exciting news?

    Yes, it's good news. :D
     
  16. The Gatherer

    The Gatherer Jedi Youngling star 6

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    Is this set BEFORE the Clone Wars Cartoon, as isn't Durge killed by Obi-Wan?
     
  17. jangofett100

    jangofett100 Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Apparently, Obi-Wan didn't kill Durge. THe cartoon is set four months after the battle of Geonosis.

    Ah, finally some true space battles. You talk something up enough, and you receive.
     
  18. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Cartoon is set 4 months ABG, Durge collects his bits and pieces and is recovered and fighting on the front lines for the CIS a year later (16 months ABG), though he probably recovered earlier than that. This HNN/SF edition is set about 21 months ABG.


    >> What roles do organic soldiers (ie Nemodians, Genosians) play in the CIS military?<<

    The article mentions the Duro city being captured by battledroid infantry and "Neimoidian irregulars", there's also mention in past articles of Neimoidian conscription increasing, and Geonosians get down and gritty with clone commandos in the trailer for Republic Commando.
     
  19. DarthMane2

    DarthMane2 Force Ghost star 5

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    Now this is great stuff. Plus the space battle isn't just a space battle, but a Fleet Battle. Plus now with the VSD around, ain't no reason for not having Fleet Battles.

    Wars starting to pick up
     
  20. DarthMane2

    DarthMane2 Force Ghost star 5

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    President_Sharky:

    The Republic carriers aren't made for battle, but are able to defend themselves. Plus they can go ship to ship, taking out smaller vessels like the NEGTVAV says.

    Your right about the Duro's though, they should have helped defend their own planet. But I've noticed that the writers aren't using other Worlds defences or forces, like Duro's. Some of these planet can defend themselves, and can actually help a small Republic Fleet and troops.

    I wonder what the Bothans are doing by the way. I mean they are good for battle I'm sure.
     
  21. DVader316

    DVader316 Jedi Knight star 7

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    Sounds like some good stuff here. I always look forward to reading HNN and the Shadowfeed and picking up on all of the subtleties. Now, though, it seems like they're starting to depict some pretty big events. Hell, number 73's HNN had a story on a CIS attack that killed former Chancellor Valorum.
     
  22. JediTrilobite

    JediTrilobite Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    very nice. I can't wait to get this one.
     
  23. Lord_Darth_Bob

    Lord_Darth_Bob Jedi Youngling star 4

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    Seven Acclamator-class ships, three Dreadnoughts, and one Victory-class Star Destroyer are a full system defense now?

    The Republic must be deprived; Corellia must've taken all of their and CEC's fleet resources in-system.
     
  24. DarthMane2

    DarthMane2 Force Ghost star 5

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    Perhaps the Duros actually helped out in the battle, and the Republic sent what ships they could.
     
  25. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    The article says the jedi and clone fighters supplemented the Duro defense force, actually.

    Another interesting sidenote- the Duro city captured, Jyvus, has been secured and transformed into a field command for the Office of the General.
     
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