Amph To Boldly Trek Where Many Geeks Have Gone Before- VOY: Drive, Repression & Imperfection

Originally, the movie was scripted to end with a battle between the Enterprise and the captured Klingon ship from early in the film (which would have included a saucer separation), but after everything had dragged on for as long as it had, it was decided to cut that out.

 

Actually, I do like the uniforms. I could do without the spandex one-piece "look at my wang" variant, though.

There's a yellow or gold version I don't think you ever see onscreen. I know there's a publicity shot with the cast on the bridge with one or two wearing the yellows. And I had an action figure of Scotty in the yellows. They did a line of figures at the same scale as the Star Wars figures.

I've been checking out this site for a while. It has a good bit of info about the production of TMP.

 

I thought my DVD was broken when I saw the 3 minutes of just space in the beginning.

 

I love the beginning. It's a classic Hollywood overture, and it gently, majestically brings you into the world of the film.

 

They did the same overture bit with 2001. I guess that was a "sci-fi epic" routine move back then.
I'm one of the very small minority who believes that if you trim about 15 minutes from TMP it would be neck and neck with Khan as the best Trek. The story of the probe that gains sentience and returns home with all the knowledge in the universe with the desire to join with humanity is superb SF (even if the Changeling episode did go there a bit) and Wise's direction was wonderful. The humor was missing, but that served the films first half well, building up the tension. As far as the proposed Klingon battle, it would have taken away from the drama of the V'Ger/Decker union. Maybe it could have shown up during the union while Kirk, et al, were with Voyager 6; Scotty would be on the bridge trying to take care of this Klingon threat as an action counterpoint to what's going with Decker. But then you run into the problem of everything being patterned for storage, so where is this Klingon ship coming from? Ah, well.
The Score was my second favorite after James Horner's work on II and the shot of the Enterprise emerging from the exploding V'Ger is as good as it gets.
In the Director's Edition they finally show us a full shot of the V'Ger spacecraft which was worth the wait.

 

The Director's Edition definitely improved this movie. It is still a very long movie, but really I wouldn't rate it as the worst of the original cast movies (V: TFF is definitely the worst), but really it gives us the main thing (a new Enterprise) and this is a very big change to the previous series and the other movies of the original cast as well.

In the following movies, we get to see the newer Enterprise attacked, battered, and eventually destroyed (so that in IV we get a Klingon ship instead). V makes the mistake of still using a more enhanced "A" version, but it's essentially the same ship, so again in VI it is finally decommissioned, but of course Kirk has other plans for it.

 

same here ive seen it myself


for all the other trek movies out there this is the closest to the orginal series and more
I think of this as Star Trek meets AI or Blade Runner, terminator, matrix
Y'know the relationship with humans and machines

 

I really can't recall if I've seen it.

 

Quest, have you viewed the text commentary on this one yet? Those are always interesting. The one for II or III even gleefully pointed out some scientific inaccuracies contained in the dialogue.

 

The second movie I *did* see...

 

Subtle.

 

Indeed.

 

But... but there's a starship heading our way and not answering our hails. What shall we do?

 

Depends... if it's the Reliant, then "We're all one happy fleet"... that likes to "Eat static"...

 

Well they did go to yellow alert and it did give Khan to quote an awesome Fren... er I mean Klingon proverb.

 

You mean this one: Revenge.

 

Of course.

 

Spock's death I imagine was a shocker back then, but it's executed very organicly within the story's narative, so it really works well- and remain effective.

I remember going to see it at a theatre with a friend of mine, and even though this was pre-internet, there was lots of discussion in the media and at the watercooler about Spock dying. Would he or wouldn't he? The death wasn't as shocking in itself (since there was so much speculation), as just watching it unfold on the screen. Having grown up watching all those old TV episodes, it felt surreal to see him killed off. At the time it was quite emotional to watch the funeral service.

In fairness to director Robert Wise, the first movie was completed in EXTREME haste, they came very, very close to not making the release date. If he had had more time, for testing, trimming, evaluating, it might not have been the train wreck it was. But the studio handled the project in such a way that allowed for no time cushion, no margin of error. He was mixing the sound track and completing the editing very close to the release date to theatres. IIRC, late delivery of special effects shots was part of the problem, too.

 

Easily the best of the Trek films, simply because it's a very well-adapted Moby Dick for the most part.

Nicholas Meyer, funny story. He really did work his way up from the very, very bottom at Paramount (he reviewed scripts, did archival work, wrote The Love Story Story, etc.) and was very respectful of the source material to begin with which probably explains his getting the directorial nod for one of the then-current crown jewels of the Paramount franchising.

 

Meyer wrote the even numbered Trek films: 2, 4 & 6 and directed 2 and 6. Big surprise that they are the best of the lot. I liked this movie a lot; oddly, both the second movies in the Star Wars and Star Trek franchises are the best.