3rd trilogy survivor

I looked for the thread devoted to this, but couldn't find it.

Lucas at one point considered going beyond 2 trilogies, and the focus of one of the later films would be a character who survived Episode 3. I think I have figured out who this was.

Originally, Leia was not Luke's sister. He did have a sister, but she would have been discovered in a later trilogy, and that it would be devoted to finding her. That's who I think the survivor was to have been: Luke's sister.

 

Could it maybe have been a character who survived RotJ? If Lucas had wanted to make another trilogy, he could have let one of the Sith escape the DSII and carry on the order.

 

Since the character-in-question was supposed to be the villian of the Sequel Trilogy (at least, in the version of the ST Draft where the Emperor was no longer alive), my bet would be on the equivilent of Dooku's character.

But in this outline, the Emperor wasn't to appear until a much later Episode. He wouldn't have been in Episode VI, and therefore wouldn't have died. By the time Palpatine was written into ROTJ, the later episodes had been abandoned.

 

I would have guessed that you meant the Emperor as well.

That being said, the Annotated Screenplays say that in an early outline, Yoda "returned from the Netherworld" and became flesh and blood again. Perhaps this was what you heard?

Otherwise, I think you're going to have to give us a little more information to work on. If the Emperor isn't the one because he wasn't originally planned for Ep.VI, then Luke's sister can't be also, since she wasn't found until Ep. VIII...

Gary Kurtz's Star Wars Memories

Gary Kurtz, who was the producer of Star Wars and The Empire Strikes Back, but not of Return of the Jedi for some unknown reason, has shared with fans what he knows about Lucas' original plans for Star Wars. These were the plans presumably as of the production of Empire:

* EPISODE 6: Leia was to be elected "Queen of her people" leaving her isolated. Han was to die. Luke confronted Vader and went on with his life alone. Leia was not to be Luke's sister.

* EPISODE 7: Third trilogy was to focus on Luke's life as a Jedi, with very few details planned out.

* EPISODE 8: Luke's sister (not Leia) appears from another part of the galaxy.

* EPISODE 9: First appearance of the Emperor.

 

gary and GL had a fall out didn't they? i'm trying to remember "Empire Building" when Bunny Alsup left with garry

 

To some extent, yes, but I'm not sure what that has to do with this topic. ?

 

it's not important, the only indiaction i;ve had of a trilogy of trilogies was from "empire building"

a good book might i add

 

>>>Originally, Leia was not Luke's sister. He did have a sister, but she would have been discovered in a later trilogy, and that it would be devoted to finding her. That's who I think the survivor was to have been: Luke's sister.

The only reference that I know of from George Lucas himself on the subject was an interview in Bantha Tracks "on the eve of the release of ESB" (Quote taken from the GL pronouncements thread), in which the character is referred to as male;

BT: At one point there were going to be twelve Star Wars films.

GL: I cut that number down to nine because the other three were tangential to the saga. Star Wars was the fourth story in the saga and was to have been called "Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope". But I decided people wouldn't understand the numbering system so we dropped it. For Empire though we're putting back the number and will call it Episode Five: The Empire Strikes Back. After the third film in this trilogy we'll go back and make the first trilogy, which deals with the young Ben Kenobi and the young Darth Vader.

BT: What is the third trilogy about?

GL: It deals with the character who survives Star Wars III and his adventures.

 

"on the eve of the release of ESB"

"GL: It deals with the character who survives Star Wars III and his adventures."

If this was before ESB, then he's probably referring to Luke. Otherwise, he'd be letting known that Luke survives ROTJ, which would ruin the suspense at the end. Besides, as the list above shows, the third trilogy deals primarily with Luke, so it would fit.

 

Depends on which draft you read. The one I quoted has Yoda saying that Ben used up all his time in the spirit world. Your draft appears in the A-S as well.

 

>>>If this was before ESB, then he's probably referring to Luke. Otherwise, he'd be letting known that Luke survives ROTJ...

Possibly, but I find it hard to believe that Lucas would be calling ROTJ "Star Wars III" right after answering a question about the episodic numbering of the films and the 9-film plan.

 

"I find it hard to believe that Lucas would be calling ROTJ "Star Wars III" right after answering a question about the episodic numbering of the films and the 9-film plan."

But consider what he did for ROTJ. The original working name for it was "Blue Harvest", so no one would know that the next SW film was being filmed. After that, it was called "Revenge of the Jedi" (for a couple of reasons - one of which was to give the clamoring press a name). Lucas didn't give the correct name of the film until after Fox started an advertising campaign for "Revenge of the Jedi".

Star Wars III is an apt name for the "third" film (to be made), in this context.

 

Could well be, but it just seems odd to me that what must have been literally moments after talking about how "Star Wars was the fourth story in the saga", "Star Wars Episode 4" and "Episode 5", and there being three trilogies planned, he would immediately refer to Episode 6 as "Star Wars III".

If I was interviewing him, I would have asked for some clarification...

 

"For Empire though we're putting back the number and will call it Episode Five: The Empire Strikes Back. After the third film in this trilogy we'll go back and make the first trilogy"

But right after mentioning ANH and ESB, he says "the third film of the trilogy". He doesn't want to give the name, for several reasons. In this context, he's referring to the third film at that time. Otherwise, I can't imagine what "Star Wars III" could possibly refer to, unless you think that he's referring to a PT character who survives Ep.III. Again, though, that would still be Luke, since all the other main characters from the PT are dead after ROTJ (Anakin, Ben, Yoda, The Emperor, etc.) I doubt he was referring to "baby Luke", rather than "grown-up Luke."

BTW, I would have added Mon Mothma, but Lucas says "his adventures."

 

This summer's biggest movie:

The Sequel Trilogy:
Jar Jar's Big Adventure

'Meesa comin' to kicken assa and chew up some bubbly gum.... And meesa all outen o' da bubbly gum!'

'Yousa gotta asken yousen self un question. 'Dosen I feelin' okieday?' Well? Dosen yousa, goobafish?'

'Handa meesa me blasta. It'sen da one dat say 'Bombad ****** ****** on it!'

'Say haloo dahlee to meesa teeny fwiend!'

Oh yeah. It was gonna be big...

 

You had BETTER be kidding, TWD!






Will you cheer when Jar Jar gets iced?

 

This sequel trilogy would obviously be about Leia,but the story depend on what time it is set in.

 

Leia and his adventures?

Is there something we should know about Leia?

 

Oh,his,well hell I don't know.

 

Good answer.

 

Meh, this one works for me.

Upsey Daisey

 

It deals with a character that survives episode III, as he said. He clearly states that he won't do them because "the other three were tangential to the saga".

Thus they take place at the same time as IV, V, and VI, and has little to do with those events.

It probably is Jar-Jar. I'd still watch it.