Amph 60+ Years of James Bond 007

Never Say Never Ag-- zzzzzzzzzzz

 

Effort needs to scale back from 14/10 to 10/10.

 

Sounds like they're adapting a non-Fleming Bond book for 25 and Blofeld and Hinx are back -- just what Ender wanted!

 

"Will Daniel Craig be back in the tuxedo?"

Daniel Craig never wore a tuxedo.

 

I was hoping the same cast would return. It'd be a waste not to bring Waltz's Blofeld back. I hope Madeleine comes back too. She was my favourite Bond girl.

 

I'm glad Craig is back on board and I hope he gets the chance to go out on a really good one. It would be a bummer for Spectre to be his last one, mediocre as it was.

But when you think about it, going out on a high note is not a hallmark of the franchise. It seems like the only way for an actor to go out on a high note as Bond is to have a short career. The only two who've done it so far are Dalton who only had two films total and Lazenby, if you can even count a movie as being his "last" when it's also his "only." Connery gets to go out with two stinkers: You Only Live Twice & Diamonds Are Forever, both pretty terrible, DAF being particularly wretched. Moore putters around through View to a Kill, which, sorry, is not a good movie, despite Walken & Jones. Brosnan fares maybe worst of all with Die Another Day. Here's hoping Craig gets to join Dalton & Lazenby in the "last one was actually damn good" camp.

 

Yeah, if only Moore had ended on FYEO... the only things that AVTAK had going for it were Walken, Jones, and Duran Duran. Also, just for completeness, LTK was terrible, just so Ender has something else to yell about.

 

dp4m, you're wrong on most things including on Thatcherite Democrats and James Bond. There's no yelling involved, just a statement of fact.

 

Threw up in my mouth

 

Daniel Craig apparently signed on for two more Bond films! Yes!

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-e...ll-play-skyfall-spectre-bond-25-a7881096.html

 

That's actually another questionable tabloid piece. The tabloids feed off each other, source to each other, and ultimately just claim "sources" told them something. He might be back, but it's not confirmed yet, and stories saying he's confirmed for two (and one will be a remake) are pretty shaky. Also, the sub-headline on that article ("The actor was confirmed to return as the spy in 25th 007 film last month") is simply not true. Nothing was confirmed officially except the date and the writers: http://www.007.com/bond-25-announcement/

 

OK notwithstanding the fact it was established as a broadsheet and offered a tabloid format with identical compact for size, what is your basis for calling the Independent a 'tabloid'?

 

First of all, they give no source for their flatly incorrect sub-headline that I mentioned above; I'm not calling them a tabloid for that, I'm saying they're just wrong when they say Craig's return was officially confirmed.
The tabloid part came from the fact that their source for this new story was The Sun, and they are referred to as a tabloid by reputable Bond sites.

 

Still not official, but this to me seems like the strongest indication yet that Craig may be back. I wouldn't be surprised if an official announcement comes soon.

https://www.mi6-hq.com/news/daniel-...-170808?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

 

Yeah that reads a lot like it's a done deal, it just hasn't been publicly announced which means either a verbal committment but not contractually finalised, or there's ancillary stuff to be resolved i.e. likeness being used in merch etc.

Craig's got bugger all merch using his face out there. These were the last I believe:

https://www.mi6-hq.com/sections/articles/collecting_corgi_2008_toyfair1.php3

I wish they'd gone into Production.

But for example, there's no Craig miniature driving the DB5 from Skyfall or DBS from Spectre; none of the 007 car magazines had a figurine driving them (every other Bond era did) etc.

 

I'd like to know the specifics of the "creative differences" between Mendes and Craig during the filming of Spectre; moreover, I hope it was Craig who was resisting said film's reversion to Moore/Brosnan-era idiocy.

 

I think the issue is being exaggerated in these recent articles. However, they may have had some tension on Spectre even though they apparently really liked working together on Skyfall. And just speculation on my part, but I would guess that it would be Craig who pushed back against some of those ideas. He's more involved in the creation of his Bond movies than many actors are for their movies, and he made two before Mendes came on for his first with Skyfall. And those two (Casino Royale and QoS) very much go against those ideas or themes you refer to.

 

Craig talked a lot about getting quips back in, so I feel he may have been a part of that. If I had to bet it was the stupid ham-fisted family story (the ham-fam) that they shoehorned in.

By bet, I of course mean hope.

 

I don't mind the quips as much, as that helps differentiate Bond... but Spectre was like a Moore-version of Bond and was terrible...

 

The quips were terrible, and will always be terrible. Come on.

 

But they always happened, even in the very, very good ones. So it's not like they're reinventing the wheel here... it doesn't have to be quips AND a movie like Spectre, it can be quips despite a movie like Spectre...

 

Did FRWL have quips? Casino Royale?

 

Yes, and yes. The CR ones weren't on quite the same level, as the ones employed from the "olden days" but "Yes, considerably..." should be considered a quip of sorts, no?

FRWL:

Bond:You're one of the most beautiful girls I've ever seen.
Tatiana:Thank you.. but, I think my mouth is too big.
Bond:No, it's the right size. For me, that is.

[after causing a SPECTRE helicopter to explode]
Bond:I'd say one of their aircraft is missing.
It's nothing on the level of "Shocking, positively shocking..." or the Pussy Galore introduction but it sets the same tone... the point is, it's okay if Bond quips. Even the ones you think are stellar, that I dislike, have them (LTK, QoS, etc.) but it's not like it didn't start in earnest (if you don't count the FRWL ones) ... even Dr. No theoretically had at least one with the hearse line. It just shouldn't be silly like many of the Moore films; Craig-tone, with quips, is fine.

 

I think Ender is probably complaining about always undercutting the seriousness of Bond's assassinations with a humorous line rather than letting the violence and unpleasantness of what his job entails sink in.

 

Oh, sure, not everything should be a quip -- and I don't think they were back in the day either...