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Amph 60+ Years of James Bond 007

Discussion in 'Community' started by Ender Sai, Dec 1, 2012.

  1. Flapjack4

    Flapjack4 Jedi Master star 4

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    It was an entertaining addition to the Craig era. I would put it as my second favourite behind Casino Royale and more satisfying than Skyfall, despite some occasional far fetchedness involving plot and Bond's past integrating into the adventure. The humour works really well especially a laugh out loud Q and Bond moment early on in Q's hidden lair.

    I can see shades of Mission Impossible in the M, Q and Moneypenny ensemble and would say by SPECTRE the makers casted this new trio just fine. Elsewhere, Mendes' action sequences continue to nod furiously to prior Bond setpieces right from the off. Fun but a little too much at times. Skyfall already did that. I didn't mind the runtime, though the Waltz villain Oberhauser does really enjoy chattering... constantly, and his shadowy introduction dragged on a touch.

    It isn't without quibbles (I found the lighting a bit too murky during the film) but it's a good Bond film, more humorous and well performed. An improvement on Skyfall for me.
     
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  2. JEDI-RISING

    JEDI-RISING Chosen One star 6

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    it's another 11 days until it opens here but i've spoiled myself completely all along. very disappointed in what they've done.
     
  3. duende

    duende Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    i saw the trailer before bridge of thighs. i will probably see this, even though my instincts scream to me that i will be disappointed.
     
  4. Ender Sai

    Ender Sai Chosen One star 10

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    What about if Nic Cage and Varg were in it?
     
  5. duende

    duende Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    i dunno, maybe it would be a little better. but it would be no bridge of thighs.
     
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  6. duende

    duende Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    woops i mean bridge of sines
     
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  7. Flapjack4

    Flapjack4 Jedi Master star 4

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    Nic Cage's villain - 'Howler', was hugely effective during his surprise guest appearance. So don't fret.

    Spoiler ^
     
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  8. AndyLGR

    AndyLGR Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Clearly it's designed so that Craigs films can be viewed in one go as a package for want of a better word. I know the stories for this and the previous film were contrived in a way, but IMO his films (arguably with the exception of QOS)? are light years ahead of a lot (but not all) of the standalone romps we've seen over the years from Bond that haven't hit the mark.
     
  9. gezvader28

    gezvader28 Chosen One star 6

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    bridge of thighs sounds like a better film .

    hang on - what is Bridge of Sines ? :confused:
     
  10. EHT

    EHT Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I really like what I'm hearing about how Spectre ties back into all of the prior Craig movies. And I agree about the standing of the Craig movies (including QoS) within the overall Bond movie line-up. From a post I made in the other 007 thread:

     
  11. I Are The Internets

    I Are The Internets Shelf of Shame Host star 9 VIP - Game Host

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    Hopefully seeing this next Friday or Saturday!
     
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  12. soitscometothis

    soitscometothis Chosen One star 6

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    Just seen it.

    Sharkjump.:(
     
  13. Mustafar_66

    Mustafar_66 Force Ghost star 6

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    I thought it would never end. Too long by about half an hour.
     
  14. JEDI-RISING

    JEDI-RISING Chosen One star 6

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    i don't like what i'm hearing about tying the films together. sounds rather forced. also with it's length and hearing that it seems some of the stuff in the movie is rushed it sounds like it could have been two movies instead of one.
     
  15. duende

    duende Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    sorry i meant to put badge of sines. i can't ever type.
     
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  16. Ender Sai

    Ender Sai Chosen One star 10

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    Binge of Sighs?
     
  17. duende

    duende Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    oh i haven't seen that one yet. any good, ender sighs?
     
  18. Ender Sai

    Ender Sai Chosen One star 10

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    It's almost as good as Thatch of Spines
     
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  19. duende

    duende Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    oh the thatcher biopic! heard a lot of good things about that one.
     
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  20. DebonaireNerd

    DebonaireNerd Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I remember reading that they intended doing a two-part film for the fourth of Craig's adventures but decided against it in the end. Maybe they've just married the concepts for the two films into one?

    Apparently it's supposed to be the longest 007 film.
     
  21. DebonaireNerd

    DebonaireNerd Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Ticket for Spectre purchased - director's suite, opening day.
     
  22. AndyLGR

    AndyLGR Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Great post and I think something had to happen to shake it up. Like many of us we’ve grown up with the Bond films, they’ve been part of our whole lives and are films I really enjoy a lot. But I agree, not only was it was becoming worse (Die Another Day really was the icing on the cake), but once the novelty of a new actor playing Bond wore off I think it was obvious the franchise was stagnating and was just treading water. Something needed to change.

    Looking back on the series as a whole the first 5 set the template for what we expect to see in a Bond film. I think Lazenbys is very underrated, had that been a Connery Bond it would be regarded more highly IMO. But I think the changes in tone came with Diamonds are Forever, the comedy element was upped and maybe the producers felt that was needed at the time? That obviously continued with Moore, yet he still made some good ones for me. A more serious Bond in Dalton didn’t seem to go down well. Then Brosnan, despite a good start, tailed off.

    Bond films have never been renowned for tight plots and character development, but at least they've tried to expand that side a bit. I read the some of the fan reviews and comments about the Craig films and there’s a lot of criticism about how events are contrived to link together. In particular what we saw Skyfall and also in Spectre (once you watch it). But I think when you step back and look at his 4 films as a whole and compare it the rest of the series, its something to be applauded that they done something different. They have enabled the Craig movies to be watched as a quadrilogy, with events that tie in. We see the growth in Bond as an agent from the first one through to family events and a backstory that lead him to become what he is and how that affects the people around him. No matter how contrived or loosely conceived these ideas may seem and no matter if they work or fall flat at least they’ve tried to shake up the Bond franchise to try and do something different.

    Right now whilst we’re in the midst of the latest actor to play him it’s easy to dismiss some of the stuff they’re doing, but I’m convinced that in the next 50 years of the Bond series the Daniel Craig films will be given their due right up at the top of the pile with the best of the Connery films.
     
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  23. AndyLGR

    AndyLGR Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I’m sure I recall there being rumours of them filming his final 2 films very close together too. But it looks like they went with the one instead. Yes it’s a long film and they certainly cram a lot in, especially in terms of its locations, which look great in the way they are shot. This and Skyfall have a really distinctive style about them in that respect. There are probably some scenes they could have trimmed down, but I must say I wasn’t bored through the film.



    Like I said over on the 60 years of Bond thread, at least they’ve tried to link the four Craig films together and do something different with the series. Personally I think it works, others may think it’s all too coincidental and contrived, but overall these are strong Bond films IMO, this isn’t another Octopussy or Die Another Day we are getting.
     
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  24. gezvader28

    gezvader28 Chosen One star 6

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    and what's that ?
     
  25. gezvader28

    gezvader28 Chosen One star 6

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    ok -

    it has a great opening action scene , there's some good laughs , decent car chase , some intriguing mystery about the villain , decent middle action scene , very good fight scene . Then - it kinda goes on a bit and doesn't have a big ending .

    it's kinda like Skyfall , the best bits are in the first half . Waltz is a bit disappointing , seems like he's gonna be great but then doesn't do much .

    There's a lot of great work in the movie but it really needs a big action scene at the end .