9-year old Anakin's dream of freeing all the slaves comes true at the end of ROTJ

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  1. waheennay Jedi Padawan

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    In Episode I little Anakin says he had a dream he was a Jedi and "freed all the slaves." It made me expect the 19 year old Anakin to have returned to Tatooine and freed the slaves there in Episode II. I was surprised when I watched it that he doesn't but then I realized that in the end he truly does. He frees ALL the people enslaved by the Empire by killing Palpatine. The new "Special Edition" shots of all the people celebrating on Tatooine, Bespin and Coruscant are a visual representation of little Anakin's dream finally coming true.
  2. amien Jedi Youngling

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    That's an interesting observation! I like it.
  3. Jedi_Master201 Jedi Knight

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    Good call, waheenay. This is something I've always said. I can't understand when people shoot the observation down. ?[face_plain] It's not uncommon in mythology and religion for prophecies to be small pictures of the larger meaning.


    So I'd have ti agree with you. ;)
  4. starwars6554 Jedi Master

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    I never thought about it that way. That is a very deep realization you've got there.
    I like it. :D
  5. SLR Jedi Knight

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    I really think that line was there to show the vast change in character in Anakin from TPM to AoTC. In TPM, he was this sweet, innocent, selfless child. All he wanted to do was help others and do good. In AOTC, he was an arrogant, brash, self-centered jerk. Everything was about him being the best and the greatest. Doing good for goods sake didn't seem to be important to him any longer.
  6. GrandAlmightyMaster Jedi Youngling

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    I never thought about his dream coming true like that.
    It sounds good.
  7. jedi_master_ousley Manager Emeritus

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    Great observation. I hadn't thought of it that way before. :)
  8. Falls_the_Shadow Jedi Youngling

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    waheennay, that is one way it came true. He does come back (from the Dark Side) and frees all the slaves.

    I thought Anakin might have forseen Luke's return to Tatooine in ROTJ, but mistaken Luke for his adult self.

    Luke, as a Jedi, comes back and does free Leia (who was Hutt's slave) as well as any who survived the bargesail firefight.
  9. Emi-Yan_Tetu Jedi Youngling

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    Yes.

    A very good observation. That shot in ROTJ SE of the Tatooine people cheering in the street in particular has new significance.
  10. The_Deal_Alterer Jedi Youngling

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  11. MeBeJedi Jedi Grand Master

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    "That shot in ROTJ SE of the Tatooine people cheering in the street in particular has new significance."

    Agreed, though I still like the OT ending. ;)
  12. TheFury Jedi Youngling

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    Never thought about it like that before. It makes sense.
  13. Mateo Jedi Padawan

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    Yeah that is true,because not only did Anakin free all the people that were slaves to the Empire's dictatorship but he also freed all of the StormTrooper/CloneTroopers that were enslaved their entire lives being forced to serve the Empire without having their own lives,once the Emperor is dead the Empire just starts falling apart and everyone that was enslaved to the system is now free
  14. Vanthorne_OX Jedi Master

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    I whole-heartedly agree waheennay. When Anakin returns to the light and embraces it, he not only frees himself from slavery to the darkside, but kills the incarnate leader of the slavery and oppressiveness of the dark side.
  15. female_obi_wan Jedi Youngling

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  16. MetalGoldKnight Jedi Youngling

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    Yes, it shows Anakin has come full-circle. When he was an innocent, 9-year old boy he wanted to go on adventures and do good for the sake of the doing good. 10 years later, though, he's become more selfish- he still wants to do good, but only either to protect those people close to him, impress his loved ones, and/or fit his own twisted, arrogant idealism. By 20 years later, he's literally become a machine in Palpatine's hands, mindlessly follows orders and telling himself that it's for the greater good even though it's blatantly clear how evil his methods have become. It's only until he sees Palpatine ruthlessly leave him for dead and prepare to kill his son that he realizes just how terrible this evil truly is, and rebels against it, doing one last good act for the sake of his son and the galaxy even though he realizes that nothing could save his own life by that point.
  17. DarthWrytard Jedi Youngling

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    The title of this thread shows deep thought (tips hat), but what about the "came back" part? It sounds like he meant he freed the slaves while living on Tatooine.
  18. Jedi_Master201 Jedi Knight

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    His dream was a small picture of the bigger meaning. In his dream he came back to Tatooine and freed the slaves ON Tatooine, but what it really meant was that he would come back from the dark side and free the entire galaxy from the grip of the Empire and dark side of the Force.
  19. MeBeJedi Jedi Grand Master

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    "but what about the "came back" part?"

    While I agree with you that it sounded like he meant Tatooine, you could stretch the meaning to include his "coming back" to the Jedi way of life. After all, Return of the Jedi could refer to Anakin's redemption.

    Not saying this will happen, just saying is all. :D
  20. AdamBertocci Manager

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    AWESOME post! :D I like it! I believe it!




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  21. Jeff 42 Manager Emeritus

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    Great insight!

    I had a dream I was a Jedi. I came back here and freed all the slaves.

    If we want to interpret the whole quote, it could be said that "here" turns out to be not a physical place, but rather a state of being. Anakin at nine is a compassionate, caring person, but those traits slip away as he grows older. At the end of RotJ he comes back to this state of compassion and caring, and by doing so frees the galaxy.
  22. vladimir_imp Jedi Youngling

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    I agree - "I came back" fits perfectly with the Jedi in him returning. Which leads to another interesting thought.

    Jedi is a plural and singular term i.e. we say "the Jedi are keepers of the peace" not "the Jedi's are keepers of the peace". I've always thought that "Return of the Jedi" used the plural of the term meaning return of all the Jedi, or return of the Jedi way of life. Maybe it makes more sense in the singular - Return of the Jedi, like Return of the King or Return of the One, or Anakin's Return.

    I don't know whether this makes sense (tricky to explain!).
  23. Phantom-Iam Jedi Padawan

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  24. threepio_mania Jedi Master

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    Makes sense, but like MeBeJedi I prefer the original ending(although with the original ending everyone being free is still implied).

    Now did Lucas intend for Anakin's statement to actually come true, or is the fact that Vader technically frees people in ROTJ just a coincidence?

    Either way it works. :)
  25. jag29 Jedi Youngling

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    This was discussed a while back exactly how long I don't know but I along with others mentioned this as well. The thread was in the episode III forum, I think it was about prophecies coming true or something like that.
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