Obi Wan tells Luke that Darth Vader was a pupil of his until he turned to evil. So does this mean that Darth Vader was once Ben's pupil, Anakin was darth vader while he was still under the guidence of Kenobi? Now onto my main point, Obi Wan clearly tells Luke that Darth Vader was his pupil, basically calling "the good man" evil. Later in ROTJ he tells us that when he turned to the darkside he ceased to be Anakin Skywalker, so only when he fell to the Dark Side was he Darth Vader, proving against my first point. He then tells Luke the line "So I told you the truth, from a certain pint of view", however he is using more then one point of view. 1) Darth Vader was never Kenobi's pupil 2) Only when Anakin turned to the Dark Side was he Darth Vader Thoughts?