Discussion A few questions about GL and his involvement...

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  1. EHT New Films Manager

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    Have a quote or link? Thanks.
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  2. Placeholder Force Ghost

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    I have posted several on this thread, here is one of them

    We have complete creative control -- over the name of the movie, how it's made, what's in it.


    Now, does that sound like conditional creative control to you?
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  3. EHT New Films Manager

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    Fair enough, will peruse those.
  4. Pro Scoundrel Chosen One

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    Guys, I think the problem here is that some of you are assuming that "clauses in George's favor" means "creative clauses". It could just mean that Disney has to honor Kathy Kennedy's contract or things like that. Maybe it means that Disney can't alter the old films at all without Lucas, but it's pretty clear that as far as any new films are concerned they "have unfettered rights to [Star Wars and Lucasfilm's other properties] going forward. We have complete creative control -- over the name of the movie, how it's made, what's in it." Not a lot of grey area or room for interpretation there. My 2 cents.
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  5. FRAGWAGON Force Ghost

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    At any rate, welcome to the brave new world of Star Wars according to focus groups and audience polling.

    Put some pants on the Wookiee!
  6. EHT New Films Manager

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    These are good points.
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  7. SweetZombieJesus Jedi Master

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    In his past work the "story treatment" has been dozens(?) of free form pages on yellow notepad, handwritten.

    If you've never read an actual script they have a very set formal format to them, which helps the director plan out the shooting pace and sets in addition to containing the dialog. So that process alone takes time, let alone flushing out the plot.
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    [IMG]As you can see Disney has safely filed Lucas treatments in a very safe place.
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  9. FRAGWAGON Force Ghost

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    I know, let's have a committee review the scripts. That way they can be completely scoured of any creeping originality.
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  10. DARTHVENGERDARTHSEAR Chosen One

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    Okay, if Disney has full control now, does it mean they can go back and change things in the previous films? Or did GL stipulate that in the no clauses? I mean, if they have full control, what exactly does that mean for the older films?
  11. FRAGWAGON Force Ghost

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    If only Lucas had listened to his advisors on ANH. He doesn't care that he introduced children to a world of Wookiees and their junk!
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  12. EHT New Films Manager

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    I think Pro Scoundrel's post does a good job of addressing that... we don't know for sure, but it seems likely that the old ones are off limits while the creative control they have is mostly in relation to the new movies.

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  13. Placeholder Force Ghost

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    Disney does not hold the distribution rights to the first six films. 20th Century Fox does. They will revert to Disney in 2020. Except for ANH, which 20th century Fox holds indefinitely. So, as of now Disney can't do much of anything with those titles unless they deal with Fox.
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  14. fishtailsam Force Ghost

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    I've heard this a lot, and I have no reason to doubt it, but can anyone provide a link to 'for sure' it?
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    http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/tangled-rights-could-tie-up-384541
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  18. Corax78 Force Ghost

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    This is the reason there are no more 3D releases. In terms of changing the other films as Disney sees fit, this is where I believe Lucas got clauses in the contract to stop that from happening.
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  19. LunarMoth Force Ghost

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    All that means is that the rights they have are absolute. I huge company CEO speaks like a lawyer sometimes. Iger wants you to think that, but if the contract leaked, and he were called on these statements, he would clearify, and the result would be that he/Disney would honor the agreement made, and the rights and power that the agreement outlined would be enforced.

    Its not that he is lying when he says that, he's just not telling the whole truth.
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  20. EHT New Films Manager

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    I think there may be some chest-beating going on in there too, in the way Iger says what he says in that quote.
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  21. A Chorus of Disapproval New Films Riot Deterrent

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    Precisely what I discerned from the tone, as well.
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  22. Placeholder Force Ghost

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    There is a lot of denial on this board
  23. A Chorus of Disapproval New Films Riot Deterrent

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    Oh, I know what level of control they have, because it has been made public knowledge through several mediums. But, the tone really is "alpha dog" barking for the sake of (justifiably so) promoting Disney Supremacy.
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  24. gezvader28 Force Ghost

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    I've been very critical of the prequels but I hope Lucas has a lot of input into these sequels , I think he's really quite brilliant in terms of writing stories , he just needs help in the final stages of dramatisation / execution .
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    They just shelled out four billion, share holders are going to want assurances.