Discussion in 'Star Wars: Episode VII and Beyond (Archive)' started by Seagoat, May 8, 2013.
Have a quote or link? Thanks.
I have posted several on this thread, here is one of them
We have complete creative control -- over the name of the movie, how it's made, what's in it.
Now, does that sound like conditional creative control to you?
Fair enough, will peruse those.
Guys, I think the problem here is that some of you are assuming that "clauses in George's favor" means "creative clauses". It could just mean that Disney has to honor Kathy Kennedy's contract or things like that. Maybe it means that Disney can't alter the old films at all without Lucas, but it's pretty clear that as far as any new films are concerned they "have unfettered rights to [Star Wars and Lucasfilm's other properties] going forward. We have complete creative control -- over the name of the movie, how it's made, what's in it." Not a lot of grey area or room for interpretation there. My 2 cents.
At any rate, welcome to the brave new world of Star Wars according to focus groups and audience polling.
Put some pants on the Wookiee!
These are good points.
In his past work the "story treatment" has been dozens(?) of free form pages on yellow notepad, handwritten.
If you've never read an actual script they have a very set formal format to them, which helps the director plan out the shooting pace and sets in addition to containing the dialog. So that process alone takes time, let alone flushing out the plot.
As you can see Disney has safely filed Lucas treatments in a very safe place.
I know, let's have a committee review the scripts. That way they can be completely scoured of any creeping originality.
Okay, if Disney has full control now, does it mean they can go back and change things in the previous films? Or did GL stipulate that in the no clauses? I mean, if they have full control, what exactly does that mean for the older films?
If only Lucas had listened to his advisors on ANH. He doesn't care that he introduced children to a world of Wookiees and their junk!
I think Pro Scoundrel's post does a good job of addressing that... we don't know for sure, but it seems likely that the old ones are off limits while the creative control they have is mostly in relation to the new movies.
Disney does not hold the distribution rights to the first six films. 20th Century Fox does. They will revert to Disney in 2020. Except for ANH, which 20th century Fox holds indefinitely. So, as of now Disney can't do much of anything with those titles unless they deal with Fox.
I've heard this a lot, and I have no reason to doubt it, but can anyone provide a link to 'for sure' it?
This is the reason there are no more 3D releases. In terms of changing the other films as Disney sees fit, this is where I believe Lucas got clauses in the contract to stop that from happening.
All that means is that the rights they have are absolute. I huge company CEO speaks like a lawyer sometimes. Iger wants you to think that, but if the contract leaked, and he were called on these statements, he would clearify, and the result would be that he/Disney would honor the agreement made, and the rights and power that the agreement outlined would be enforced.
Its not that he is lying when he says that, he's just not telling the whole truth.
I think there may be some chest-beating going on in there too, in the way Iger says what he says in that quote.
Precisely what I discerned from the tone, as well.
There is a lot of denial on this board
Oh, I know what level of control they have, because it has been made public knowledge through several mediums. But, the tone really is "alpha dog" barking for the sake of (justifiably so) promoting Disney Supremacy.
I've been very critical of the prequels but I hope Lucas has a lot of input into these sequels , I think he's really quite brilliant in terms of writing stories , he just needs help in the final stages of dramatisation / execution .
They just shelled out four billion, share holders are going to want assurances.