"A powerful Sith you will become" - Sidious' choice of words

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  1. Lord_Pilaf Jedi Knight

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    I was rewatching ROTS on DVD recently and only just thought about something for the first time. When Darth Sidious is inducting Anakin into the Sith Order, he momentarily speaks in the archaic backwards dialogue of Master Yoda. Instead of "You will become a powerful Sith", which would be modern Basic, he says "A powerful Sith you will become", which is the more archaic and outdated form of speaking, allegedly.

    Does anyone have any theories about his choice of words here? Was he mocking Yoda's speech or do you suppose the ancient Sith spoke this way as well? We know that Palpatine was only 63 at the time, remember.
  2. darth_frared Jedi Grand Master

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    i think it was supposed to sound more sort of important if you take my meaning. the way he puts emphasis there. sith goes first, person comes second...

    supposed to sound ceremonial, i guess.
  3. OMoT33 Jedi Knight

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    I think Palps used this to show how powerful the Sith actually are. If he said "you will become a powerful sith" it means he could just be one of many powerful sith, blah, blah...

    He says "a powerful sith you will become" Not only is the "YOU" emphesized, but it makes Anakin seem like one of an elite organization.
  4. voodoopuuduu Classic Trilogy Trivia Host

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    Does anyone have any theories about his choice of words here?

    Keep in mind, hes just taken a beating from his own Sith lightning. Im amazed he didnt sound like Jar-Jar after getting his head caught in the pod racer beam. :p Kind of like saying "A powerful Sith you will become" while holding your tongue. :D
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  5. Yodas-evil-twin Jedi Grand Master

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    The lightning might explain why his voice sound s like that, but it shouldn't mess him up to the point where he starts misplacing words.
  6. barnsthefatjedi Jedi Grand Master

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    I wasn't aware of that, but if it's true, it reinforces the idea that an ancient power (possibly the Darkside itself) was speaking through Sidious.
  7. SithStarSlayer Manager Emeritus

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    Yes! The Raspy breathing! The growls!

    "The boy you trained. Gone he is. CONSUMED by Darth Vader."




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  8. JASTERSLEGACEYV2 Jedi Knight

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    well it might be force of habbit, he want's 2 sound wise and also lure in jedi who have been trained and thr idea of wise is yoda and thats how he speaks so i think the whole backwards thing is force of habbit.
  9. darth_krumbum Jedi Knight

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    i think it was just meant to be sidious' way of mocking yoda.

    peace,
    Krumbum
  10. bjs847725 Jedi Knight

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    How do we know Sidious is 63 years old?
  11. Bacon164 Force Ghost

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    I've never really thought about that... interesting. :-B
  12. farrellg Force Ghost

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    I think the wording is for dramatic effect. Palpatine is performing an ancient Sith knighting ritual and using more archaic speech.
  13. bjs847725 Jedi Knight

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    HOW DO WE KNOW SIDIOUS IS 63 YEARS OLD?
  14. Curufinwe Force Ghost

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    I've noticed the backward speech too, but I've simply written off as sounding dramatic and theatrical. Kind of like how Vader says "What is thy bidding my master?"
  15. LuvTheChosenOne Jedi Knight

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    First of all, when Sidious states that, he seams to be getting some level of satisfaction from it. Like he is speaking in the third person. It's so creepy the way he treats Anakin like his prize posession. I agree that it was to make Anakin feel like he will follow a long line of feared warriors.
  16. i_dont_know Jedi Master

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    When Palpatine says the word "Sith" Anakin's eyes open as if on cue.
    I may be reading too much into it, but this gave me the impression that saying "Sith" is actually an important part of the ceremony.
  17. Curufinwe Force Ghost

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    Or it could be Anakin thinking to himself: "Boy, I've done it now. Qui-Gon saved my life from a Sith and now I am one."
  18. ObiVanKenobi Jedi Knight

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    He says Henceforth in this scene too. I think it's more of a "ceremonial language."
  19. yoshifett Jedi Grand Master

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    This is a good point. But I think there is an intentional mirroring of yoda's strange inverted syntax. Plus, it just sounds really cool. Particularly the way Palpy growls the word powerful. [face_devil]
  20. darth-sinister Manager Emeritus

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    The character's bio states that he was 50 in TPM. 60 in AOTC. 63 in ROTS. 82 in ANH. 85 in TESB. 86 in ROTJ. He just looks like he does because of the strain in trying to kill Mace Windu, exerting a lot of anger, altered his face.

    I don't think it was mocking Yoda, considering that he's not even there. I think it's just the way he spoke.
  21. Lord_Pilaf Jedi Knight

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    Perphaps. I just find it odd that this is his one and only time speaking this way on film.

    He does, however, speak this way once in the ROTJ novelization, when speaking about Yoda. He says "This Yoda...lives he still?" while probing Luke's mind about his training. Then he says "AH. He lives not."
  22. darth_frared Jedi Grand Master

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    well, his choice of words is always a bit on the heavy side of eloquence, isn't it?
  23. Carnage04 Jedi Grand Master

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    Wait a minute. Did the archive footage viewed by Yoda and Obi-Wan have sound or just video? I don't really recall how they found out his Sith name was Darth Vader. Doesn't make much sense to me that they would immediately know his new name....

    Carnage
  24. Darth_Manic Jedi Knight

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    On the holographic footage you hear Sidious call Anakin,Lord Vader.
  25. Ceethreepio Jedi Grand Master

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    its just his way of saying "you will become a bad***"
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