Lit A return to the Bantam Style

Discussion in 'Literature' started by newdawn12, Jul 30, 2013.

  1. Force Smuggler Force Ghost

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    That, more Imperial stuff, Chiss, Droma, The Ssi-Ruuk, more Yuuzhan Vong centered books, the people of any planet etc.
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  2. Jedi Ben Chosen One

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    More Empire and Chiss yes. Droma I can take or leave. Vong just aren't interesting to me pre-TUF, post-TUF? They go way up!

    Other stuff: A'Baht versus the Vong at Dornea. Military fleet stories, Rogue and Wraith Squadrons - not just their one-off in EL duology.
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  3. Force Smuggler Force Ghost

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    More Pash Crackan, Juder Page, Wes Janson with the Yellow Aces etc. the Wraiths that stayed behind on Coruscant, more Shamed Ones stuff would be great imo. More Vergere stuff, more Kre'fey, Sovv and whatever else.
  4. Jedi Ben Chosen One

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    I could go with most of that - don't care about the Shamed Ones though.

    Remember - I'm NOT a fan of NJO either! If I'm saying this - and I am - then surely there's an untapped market.
  5. Force Smuggler Force Ghost

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    More Shamed One's stuff would be great imo.
    I'm going to have to watch Deep Space Nine and the Dominion War.
    For the first series after YJK I would have the villain be some threat from the Unknown Regions. The Vong will come later. There will be hints of them, they will be the ones that caused the UR threat to go into the galaxy. We will see the Ssi-Ruuk, Yvetha, Thrackan, Lumiya, Daala, Blackhole and whoever/whatever else return as well. The tone will be darker than the Bantam books not NJO dark yet. Anakin and the other next Generation will live and then a couple decades later we get the Vong!
  6. Jedi Ben Chosen One

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    Know what would be the smart move?

    Still have Vong show up but rather than have them as THE threat from the Unknown Regions, they are but one of many! Not that it's a new idea but it remains a good one!
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  7. Dr. Steve Brule Force Ghost

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    I think Dark Empire did superweapons very well. Besides the above, the World Devastators and (to a lesser extent) Galaxy Gun were far more unique than the typical Death Star/Sun Crusher type thing. Not to mention both are based in the realm of reason - the World Devastators are Von Neumann devices, and the Galaxy Gun is simply a faster-than-light scale kinetic energy weapon.
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  8. Force Smuggler Force Ghost

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    That could be fun. One threat goes after the New Republic, one goes after the Empire, another goes after the Chiss, another the Hutts, another the Tion Hegemony or the Corporate Sector and so and so forth and they all wage war on each other.
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  9. Jedi Ben Chosen One

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    I like the sound of that - multiple wars and shifting alliances simultaneously.
  10. Force Smuggler Force Ghost

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    The only question is how long should it hypothetically last? Don't want to make it too short but how long is too long? A year is too short but if those guys are the new threat they will have to last awhile.
  11. Reveen Jedi Grand Master

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    I could envision a bunch of factions getting into a Game of Thrones style scrap, though written more farcically and the Jedi are caught in the middle running around trying to clean up their messes and figure out a way to stop these idiots from killing eachother.

    We need more stories with a partially comedic tone going on. I'd actually like the constant galactic level crises if they didn't take themselves so deadly serious all the damn time.

    On the superweapon tack, what if some wacko started trying to merge Yuuzhan Vong tech with machinery? That could be scary enough to make the galaxy piddle it's pants without requiring the weapons to do a ton of damage first.
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  12. darklordoftech Force Ghost

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    Pure awesome!
  13. darthjulian777 Jedi Grand Master

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    How about just all Yuuzhan Vong, all the time???
  14. The Compeer Jedi Grand Master

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    Because Del Rey's post-NJO assumptions regarding the fanbase being sick to death of Vong are in dire need of validation, am I right?
  15. darthjulian777 Jedi Grand Master

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    I mean considering we haven't had a Yuuzhan Vong story in a decade. It's time to bring them out of the Disney Vault so to say.
  16. Force Smuggler Force Ghost

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    Legacy, Mercy Kill and Invasion say hello
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  17. darthjulian777 Jedi Grand Master

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    Legacy's Yuuzhan Vong presence is vastly overrated. Same with Mercy Kill. Invasion didn't even have an ending it got cancelled.

    I'm talking about a YV Novel with them as the subject once more.
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  18. DigitalMessiah Chosen One

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    I had always envisioned the Yuuzhan Vong that left Zonama Sekot doing so to become part of the Jedi order's retinue after the NJO series. They would be naturally drawn toward the Jedi as their redeemers as well as the authority on the Force whom would help them restore their connection to it over time. This is what happened in SW Legacy to some extent, but I thought it would have been neat for Jacen to show up with a Yuuzhan Vong partner after his little journey. They could have done a Gilgamesh and Enkidu type partnership, maybe even make this one of the rare Yuuzhan Vong that had established a connection with the Force and could use it to some to an extent and have Jacen as his mentor.
  19. darthjulian777 Jedi Grand Master

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    [IMG]

    Congrats. You win Star Wars.
  20. DigitalMessiah Chosen One

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    Woo!
  21. Force Smuggler Force Ghost

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    That would be awesome!
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  22. fett 4 Chosen One

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    No it could not. Starwars was based on the Hidden Fortress, told fromt 2 lowest characters point of view, lost behind enenmy lines. Nothing generic about that.

    There was also character development and while the characters themselves my by archetypes there was actual deveolpment in there journeys As it was based on the Hero's Journey by Cambell
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    In the Bantam run with the exception of perhaps Mara in Zahn's TTT and HoT and 1 or 2 others the books were basically reset volumes and nothing devolped or learnt and often ignored by other authors.
  23. Iron_lord Force Ghost

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    "The Hero's Journey" by Campbell, is the essence of generic fantasy - basically, it summarizes the tropes.

    So- anything based on it, will have some degree of genericness.
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  24. Jedi Ben Chosen One

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    For me, the gap between the Vong in TUF and them appearing in Legacy is what makes it work - anything before that is too early.

    I think it's pretty accurate to say the fans were tired of the marauding, kill everything, sodomising little bunny rabbits Vong but the Vong post-TUF? There's a lot to explore in terms of rehabilitation but no one cares about that!
  25. darklordoftech Force Ghost

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    I do
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