Amph A Song of Ice and Fire Discussion Thread

Read that when it came out, loved it. Cannot wait for the book to come out.

Yup. Dragons are great at killing, but that doesn't mean they're invincible.

 

Wow. Wow. I don't understand how they can do so well in some scenes and completely circle the bowl in others.

LF's voice was fine in season 1 but it was so messed up in season 2.

 

What's happening in it? I have to watch tomorrow unfortunately.

 

That really pissed me off.

 

My memory of book events fades day by day, but I told myself I wouldn't read them again until I knew the release date of book 6. However I actually became angry when I couldn't remember if Jamie raped Cersei or not.

 

The book scene was kind of funny in a morbid way, seeing as how they were ****ing next to their son's corpse. The show completely ruined that by making it rape.

 

Did Littlefinger murder Ser Dontos at least?

 

Yes. That I remember.

 

On that note, Aidan Gillan has just stopped trying to act, right?

 

So does this mean they're going to turn Jaime into a bad guy again? I'm so confused about his character because that was ridiculously out of character but maybe not?

 

Isn't it unclear in the book who killed her (but Jon blames himself)?

 

I have a feeling that it is over-compensation for how much people now sympathise with him. Coster-Waldau and Christie did too good of a job making him a character people like a lot more than he was at this stage in the books. I wouldn't be surprised if this is trying to show "no look, he is still a bastard and not one of the good guys" from the writers room.

Oddly enough, given that it is being dissolved in alcohol that would provide the how something that size would dissolve quickly. It's an organic derrived poison and you would not want the crystalised form to dissolve just in water (otherwise rain, salt spray, or sweat would dissolve it) but alcohol would foot the bill nicely.

Edit: Also, I know others haven't liked it, but right then gave a glimpse as to why I like Huisman as Daario. He exudes charm and fits with the overall asthetic of the TV world.

 

Yeah that doesn't surprise me. The other day I was talking about him with my roommate who hasn't read the books and she was like "How can you not like Jaime?" It was difficult to explain how different he was in the books at this stage. This scene tonight definitely helped her see the difference though.

 

Ugh, that rape scene was really stupid. In the books, Jaime and Cersei doing the deed next to Joffrey's corpse was just a perfect way to show exactly how ****ed up they were after never seeing them interact from a POV before. And D & D turned it into something pointlessly awful and out-of-character, instead of something awful but full of character insight.

I did like the Tywin & Tommen interaction though. Great speech and manipulation on Tywin's part, but I also got the feeling that he sincerely believes that with Tommen as king, they can do a lot of good for the kingdom.

And Tyrion and Podrick's scene was excellent, with some very nice humor throughout before the sad ending. Plus, it perfectly sets up Pod going with Brienne to search for Sansa, who Pod no doubt hopes can prove his friends innocence.

Very happy Grenn and Edd are alive, was a bit worried about them (although I'm still worried Grenn will take Donal Noye's place against Mag the Mighty). And I must say, I actually prefer the show's version of Aliser Throne over the books. He's still an a**hole, but much more complicated.

Davos and Shireen continues to be awesome. The focus on her is interesting, and on in Matt Fowler's review for the episode on IGN, he noted how it seemed like she was more important to the grand scheme of things than Bran currently is. This got me thinking: if D & D are clued in on how the series ends, perhaps they are adding all of these awesome scenes with Shireen because she is going to be the one winning the Iron Throne? Which, IMO, would be totally awesome.

According to the GOT wiki, Hizdahr zo Loraq was among the Great Masters on the wall of Meereen. Alas, no Shavepate. And was this also the first mention of the Golden Company? Hopefully that will mean something in the future.

 

Writers you were doing so well with Jaime and then YOU DO THIS???

 

It was the exact same way in the book. The Meereenees (IDK if that's right, but I think Meereen needed some more e's) champion used a ridiculously long lance to try impaling Strong Belwas, and Dany and her advisors noted that he was acting like he was jousting.

 

In the books, Cersei resisted at first then gave into him, right?

Shireen is adorable. I wish her parents (especially her mother) realized what a wonderful child they have.

I know Sam and Gilly are awkward with each other, but did something seem a bit off with their scene? I'm not sure how else to word it.

 

Presumably now Jaime's rape of Cersei will be his reason for leaving King's Landing.