Amph A Song of Ice and Fire Discussion Thread

You're wrong. I understand criticisms of his meandering style-- though I wonder why they were fans in the first place-- but he knows where he's going. The showrunners are just making stupid choices.

And I agree with Jello. Gurm is definitely implying the show ending wasn't his.

 

My take on what he said is that what happened to the babies was never going to be revealed in the books. It could be true (Craster's wives believe that's what happens) but maybe not. The show runners took what the wives said in the one scene and ran with it. Probably without talking to GRRM first.

Has anyone watched the "Inside the Episode"? D&D talk anout being influenced by horror movies of the 70s and 80s, how they made the monsters scarier by not showing much of them (Jaws and Aliens come to mind). D&D really emphasize that. And then show far more of the Others than means necessary by any measure.


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Okaaay ...

Trouble's brewing in Mereen.

GrandAdmiralJello, you mentioned Bran gets captured by a group of deserters from the Night's Watch in "Oathkeeper." Is this the same group that Coldhands slaughters in ADWD Bran I? If so, I agree that the whole storyline being changed in the show is stupid.

 

The fate of those who murdered Mormont is left ambiguous in the books. Bran never encounters any NW personnel other than Sam.

 

Considering that those who fled back to the Wall were being harassed by Others and wights, I think the fate of those at Craster's was implied.

 

Well, it's more than implied that at least some of them are killed by Coldhands in ADWD.


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Yeah, pretty sure that they all got killed by CH after they left the keep.

 

I know the books are not the same as the TV series, but shouldn't this character "Coldhands" have appeared by now?

 

See, I thought that Coldhands killed the wildling survivors of the siege on the Wall. The wildlings broke after Stannis arrived and some of the survivors fled into the wilderness. Varamyr was one of them.

 

Damn, it was a short passage so I don't remember if they were Wildlings or wights or Night's Watch.

EDIT: The wiki says they were indeed the mutineers. Huh.

 

The book itself doesn't say who they are (Bran doesn't know the mutineers, after all) but they were clear NW by their clothing.

As for Coldhands, this would be their last chance to bring him in on the show, but I doubt they will. Didn't one of the actors even confirm that CH was dropped?

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hahahaha

FOREVER, SON.

 

The prime way to have made Bran and Jon miss one another is not to have contrived that stupid almost-encounter in the first place.

 

Well there goes my thought about Locke taking over for Biter...

And OMG Pod and Brienne was adorable.

 

The mines running dry lol.

 

Not sure calling the writers/show people D&D in a thread about fantasy novels is the best use of the acronym...

 

Oberyn: "We don't hurt little girls in Dorne."
Darkstar: "Oh hai, didn't see you there."

 

1. Why were the White Walkers avoiding Bran?
They couldn’t stand the Hodor.

2. If Jaime usurped the Iron Throne, what would be his first act?
Finding a Hand of the King.

3. Why don’t the Greyjoys do any laundry?
They would have to pay the iron price.

4. What does the little Stark boy desperately need?
Some Bran’ new legs.

5. How can you tell when Lord Bolton is cold?
He gets Roose-bumps.

6. When did Brienne realise Jaime was hitting on her?
When he asked: “Are you sure we’re not related?”

7. How much did Jon Snow win on Jeopardy?
Bugger all. He knew nothing.

8. The bakers of King’s Landing took their revenge on Joffrey by retrieving his body, cutting him up and putting him in a sandwich. What was it called?
Joffrey’s inbred.

9. Where did Stannis drink away his sorrows after the Battle of the Blackwater?
Flagonstone.

10. What is Tyrion’s favourite TV show?
Imp My Ride.

11. What did the railing say to reassure the staircase?
“A banister always pays its steps.”

12. Why didn’t Theon cut Ramsay’s throat with that razor blade?
He didn’t have the balls.

3. What do you call a bunch of outlaws who kill Lannisters, kidnap children and never say please?
The Brotherhood Without Manners.

14. Why do the Greyjoys import all their clothes?
They do not sew.

15. The Starks may not have the Iron Throne, but they do have ...
Iron MAN.

16. Why was winter running so late?
Winterfell and it couldn’t get up.

17. What is the Grand Maester’s second job?
He’s a pie seller.

18. Which Game of Thrones character is most like Santa Claus?
Ho Ho Hodor! (Honourable mention: Khal Hoho)

19. What do the girls in Littlefinger’s brothel call their favourite customer?
Podthick Payne.

20. What did Jeor and Jorah want to add to their family computer?
Morefonts.

21. Some of Daenerys’ troops have started strolling instead of marching. What’s their nickname?
The Unhurried.

22. What does it say on Jon Snow’s business card?
Jon, Crow.

23. When someone swears allegiance to Daenerys, they are ...
Jumping on the band-dragon.

24. Tywin Lannister has an incompetent cousin. What’s his name?
Tylose Lannister.

25. How did Walder feel before the Red Wedding?
His nerves were Freyed.

26. What do you call a creepy ex-boyfriend north of the Wall?
A White Stalker.

27. What is Roose Bolton’s favourite dessert?
The dread tort.

 

Oh goodness. Those are quite humourous.

 

Really? I've seen better inside Christmas crackers.

 

those are the first ASOIAF jokes I've seen. Some made me roll my eyes but I chuckled at quite a few , like 26