Discussion in 'Games' started by The2ndQuest
, Apr 29, 2002.
I had the same idea for that program that you mention...
hello all I have the star wars customizable card game premier edition, the decipher version. I know they don't actually make the game any more but I figure some of the stuff can't be all that different from the new maker.
I have a few questions so I can figure out what is what.
1)in the beginning of the game it seems that I won't be able to do battle until the second or 3rd turn... is this correct?
2)I assume that if you deploy a weapon you can only fire it at a vehicle or person with ability obviously. the question is that also i would assume that I can only fire the weapon at a person on the board...
a)do they have to be at the same site as you (ie. tattooine for both players.)?
b)how exactly do you determine who to fire on in general?
3)how do you know if you hit or miss the target?
4) basically do any of you know a simplified way to understand the battle phase through the end of your turn?
Unlock 'n bump by request (sorry, I don't have any updates on the project!)
Its a real shame this stalled, it was a fantastic project. I've started to put a few cards together myself. I'm still trying to find a decent font for the lore and game text but here are my photoshop efforts so far?.. all Geonosis cards since the early parts of the film have already been covered by this project.
[image=http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/h427/smudger9/Count-Dooku.gif] [image=http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/h427/smudger9/Poggle-The-Lesser.gif] [image=http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/h427/smudger9/Wat-Tambor.gif] [image=http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/h427/smudger9/San-Hill.gif] [image=http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/h427/smudger9/Shu-Mai.gif] [image=http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/h427/smudger9/Jango-Fett-Bounty-Hunter.gif] [image=http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/h427/smudger9/8EX.gif] [image=http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/h427/smudger9/5TE_edited-1.gif] [image=http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/h427/smudger9/Super-Battle-Droid.gif] [image=http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/h427/smudger9/Geonosis-Battle-Droid.gif]
[image=http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/h427/smudger9/Clone-Commander.gif] [image=http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/h427/smudger9/Clone-Captain.gif] [image=http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/h427/smudger9/Clone-Pilot.gif] [image=http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/h427/smudger9/Aayla-Secura.gif] [image=http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/h427/smudger9/Coleman-Trebor.gif]
The cards look good. Maybe if the project has stalled, you guys can take a hack at the expansions my friends and I made for AOTC and ROTS. Full expansions for both. My favorite cards were the ones that allowed the players to pull Jedi or Sith and their lightsabers from beneath their starting effects.
As for the lore/game text issue, I used a modified version of Futura Condensed for both. The Card title font I never found however and built my own font to match it (I'm a graphic designer).
Perhaps when I get home tonight I can post some sample cards for you all.
I'd be very interested to see some samples.
I also had problems with the title font so I painstakingly copied them in from scans of the original decipher cards (I'm not a graphic designer!!!)
I did a few locations cards today
[image=http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/h427/smudger9/Geonosis-Light.gif] [image=http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/h427/smudger9/Geonosis-Dark.gif] [image=http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/h427/smudger9/GeonosisWarRoomDark.jpg]
And a few more characters
[image=http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/h427/smudger9/R4-P17.gif] [image=http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/h427/smudger9/Luminara-Unduli.gif] [image=http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/h427/smudger9/Clone-Lieutenant.gif] [image=http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/h427/smudger9/Buktar-Swann.gif]
Holy crap! Movement on this board!
I'd be willing to take a stab at helping with the project if you guys were serious about it. I've got the fonts stashed away and haven't been doing much work except some work on a farmer set for a guy that wanted some cards done for his personal play group. With that set almost done, I'd love to work on something new that people might actually play with
I'd love to help get it going again, however, as someone who only played with the Premier set back in the day, I don't have the knowledge or experience to drive it forwards. I mega keen to be a helper though. Ideally we need a key member from the original project so we know exactly what has been done. I have the PDF of the first expansion pack, which is sensational.
Hey guys, glad to see there is interest in such a project. As I mentioned above, my friends and I did full sets for Attack of the Clones (284 cards) and Revenge of the Sith (171 cards). I'll post samples below. We went all out in making sure we didn't just make noun cards but plenty of interrupts, effects, weapons, and the purple cards. I did create a new type of purple card called a battle card. One side was light and the other side was dark. It depicted a major battle from a movie and would flip over to whichever side was winning that battle (thus granting them added bonuses). I thought it worked well.
I double-checked my fonts. I did use a custom variant of futura for most of the text. I used Gothic725BT for the numbers and a handmade font for the card titles.
So here we go with AOTC: (and forgive me if these are goofy, I am still getting accustomed to flikr hosting.
[image=http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6187/6062116958_4e5428e96b.jpg] [image=http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6196/6061566917_5e8c784f37.jpg] [image=http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6089/6062116940_1d4e200b87.jpg] [image=http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6189/6062116914_0129f12700.jpg]
[image=http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6075/6061567011_ee30e47740.jpg] [image=http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6194/6061566991_723cdeb4c1.jpg] [image=http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6078/6061566977_a1f4c7cde1.jpg] [image=http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6187/6062117012_9bd392791a.jpg] [image=http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6071/6061566937_30c02e53d6.jpg]
Hope you enjoy...
Those are amazing General Flash!!! How did you get such a smooth border between the card and the movie picture? I used photoshop elements and it produces a very staggered border.
Well smudger9, I have never used Photoshop Elements, so I don't know the differences between it and the full photoshop I am used to. I did create templated card borders where I have a hole for the picture and place the picture behind the card art.
I tend to use the polygon lasso tool (which is in elements too) to make a selection of the existing picture. In any of the selection tools, make sure you have anti-aliasing turned on (check box at the top). Without that, you will get the staggered edges you're referring to.
Hope this helps,
Cheers General, that really helped. Put together a few more. The game text is very rough at the moment because I've not really thought about effects/objectives/interrupts etc.
[image=http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/h427/smudger9/Lama-Su.gif] [image=http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/h427/smudger9/Count-Dooku-1.gif] [image=http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/h427/smudger9/Clone-Trooper.gif]
I'd be really interested in helping get this project going again. However, it really needs 2nd Quest on board and some of the old crew like RB. Reading back through the thread (which is a delight to read), the first expansion was close to having it's second draft completed. Kamino had a lot of first draft cards but the main hurdle to get over was the cloning mechanic. The main debate surrounded whether the dark side should be allowed to clone. That was before ROTS and order 66 was revealed. IMO, given order 66, the Dark side shouldn't be allowed to clone. The light should get cloning and dark get the droid foundries. Then in the ROTS expansions dark gets order 66 and light gets droid unit shutdown.
I'd be happy to see AOTC expansions move forward, but its been ages since I thought about SWCCG. (Actually I switched to my own self-made star wars ccg, which I may or may not post here).
But I have full photoshop templates for all card types, should anyone want them. They were built as accurately to decipher designs as I could manage (which is pretty close).
I'd be interested in looking at your templates. What sources did you use? I built mine from the card gallery on the players committee website. They are jpegs but certaintly aren't high res.
Mine were hi-res scans from the original cards (600 dpi, I think). They were significantly cleaned up before I used them (600 dpi creates some obvious moree patterns, especially in the rugged Light Side designs).
The templates are set up so all the different elements (text and logos) are in their own layer. This way, one can simply turn on and off the necessary layers, drop in the picture and text to easily create a card.
I modified two different version of Futura for the text (it was the best match, except for the captial 'M's). The modified fonts also include the diamond (limited) icon and bullets replacing some of the keyboard punctuation.
The title font was hand scanned and rebuilt from original scans. It includes all the letters, number and punctuation used in the cards. I never did figure out what the font was used for the cards (and I even interviewed for a designer position at Decipher, way back when...)
I have seen the other templates available for download. By time those appeared I had already built my templates, so I never referenced them.
Okay, here's my attempt to get this project moving forwards again. Now, my personal CCG experience is much less than many that have contributed to this project. I played until Dagobah, and collected until Jabba's Palace so I have no experience of Epic Events and Objectives. Therefore some of my game text may not be workable, but hopefully it will stimulate some debate.
I've started with the cloning objective as it's the key thing in the Kamino expansion. I've gone with a mechanic that sticks to the 60 card rule and doesn't allow the Dark Side to clone.
Objective and Epic Event
[image=http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/h427/smudger9/Kamino%20Epic%20Events%20and%20Objectives/Theyre-Cloners.jpg] [image=http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/h427/smudger9/Kamino%20Epic%20Events%20and%20Objectives/This-Army-Is-For-The-Republic.jpg] [image=http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/h427/smudger9/Kamino%20Epic%20Events%20and%20Objectives/Cloning.jpg]
[image=http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/h427/smudger9/Kamino%20Vehicles%20and%20Characters/Lama-Su.jpg] [image=http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/h427/smudger9/Kamino%20Vehicles%20and%20Characters/Taun-We.jpg] [image=http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/h427/smudger9/Kamino%20Vehicles%20and%20Characters/Ko-Sai.jpg] [image=http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/h427/smudger9/Kamino%20Vehicles%20and%20Characters/Kaminoan.jpg] [image=http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/h427/smudger9/Kamino%20Vehicles%20and%20Characters/Clone-Template.jpg] [image=http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/h427/smudger9/Kamino%20Vehicles%20and%20Characters/Clone-Trooper.jpg]
Clone Template is not the same persona as Jango
[image=http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/h427/smudger9/Kamino%20Effects%20and%20Interrupts/Growth-Acelleration.jpg] [image=http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/h427/smudger9/Kamino%20Effects%20and%20Interrupts/A-Million-More-Well-On-The-Way.jpg] [image=http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/h427/smudger9/Kamino%20Effects%20and%20Interrupts/Considerable-Pay.jpg]
More effects and interrupts on the way
My Kamino locations are done. I don't want to link too many images directly to this thread, so here is a link for my photo bucket album.
And here's the link for my whole Kamino set.
Nicely done indeed Good work!
Did you want those converted into a pdf for easy printing?
Yeah smudger9, they look great. Keep up the good work.
Been doing a few more cards over the last few weeks, mainly Geonosis. I've done the separatists, Geonosians and Battle Droids, plus a Dark Sora Bulq. Here is the link to the whole set. Gametext is still a work in progress until I've sorted out objectives, effects and interrupts but the rest of the cards are pretty much final.
Here are a select few.
[image=http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/h427/smudger9/Geonosis/Characters%20Dark/Poggle-The-Lesser.jpg] [image=http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/h427/smudger9/Geonosis/Characters%20Dark/Wat-Tambor.jpg] [image=http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/h427/smudger9/Geonosis/Characters%20Dark/5TE.jpg] [image=http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/h427/smudger9/Geonosis/Characters%20Dark/Gizor-Dellso.jpg]
Feedback would be much appreciated.
Here are my Jedi and Clones. I still need to do 2nd versions of Anakin, Obi-Wan and Mace but otherwise its pretty much a complete list. They are in 2 albums
Here are a select few
[image=http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/h427/smudger9/Coruscant/Characters%20Light/Even-Piell.jpg] [image=http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/h427/smudger9/Coruscant/Characters%20Light/Obi-Wan-Kenobi-Jedi-Investigator.jpg] [image=http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/h427/smudger9/Geonosis/Characters%20Light/Master-Windu.jpg]
[image=http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/h427/smudger9/Geonosis/Characters%20Light/Kit-Fisto.jpg] [image=http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/h427/smudger9/Geonosis/Characters%20Light/CRC-09-571.jpg] [image=http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/h427/smudger9/Geonosis/Characters%20Light/Clone-Gunner.jpg]
Again feedback and suggestions would be much appreciated.
Tonight's work was three Jedi Test cards
[image=http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/h427/smudger9/Kamino/Use-Your-Feelings-You-Must.jpg] [image=http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/h427/smudger9/Kamino/Much-To-Learn-1.jpg] [image=http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/h427/smudger9/Geonosis/Jedi-Trials.jpg]
And tonights were the 4 main AOTC creatures
[image=http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/h427/smudger9/Kamino/Characters%20and%20Creatures/Massiff.jpg] [image=http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/h427/smudger9/Geonosis/Characters%20Dark/Acklay.jpg] [image=http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/h427/smudger9/Geonosis/Characters%20Dark/Nexu.jpg] [image=http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/h427/smudger9/Geonosis/Characters%20Dark/Reek.jpg]
?...and to go with them, my Orray and Picador