Lit A Tarkin Coup: Possibility or Pipedream

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  1. Nom von Anor Jedi Master

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    Could Lusankya have damaged the local shield generators/projectors while she was rising from her "grave"? That could weaken the planetary shields over that area.
  2. Iron_lord Force Ghost

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    Given that she was disguised as a shield generator- it wouldn't entirely surprise me if there was a real one on top of Lusanyka, that was destroyed when it took off.
  3. jasonfry VIP

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    IF there were a feature about the Death Star briefing scene, what other topics related to it would you find of interest?
  4. Iron_lord Force Ghost

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    I'd like to know what happened between the novelization and the movie, to change who says what, at the briefing. Was it a very early script?

    If I remember rightly, Marvel Star Wars, while having dialogue closer to the book than the movie in many scenes, did have it as Motti rather than Tagge that was rude to Vader.
  5. LelalMekha Jedi Grand Master

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    As far as I'm aware, there remains one last unidentified individual sitting in the conference room--the one seated to the right of Cass. And speaking about Cass, what's his rank, by the way? In the days of yore, Curtis Saxton used to think he was a Major General, but Cass was mostly forgotten in the EU, so the issue was never addressed. Oh, and another thing, perhaps: in the movie, Motti says "Dangerous to your Starfleet, [General Tagge]; not to this battle station." However, Motti was the navy officer, and Tagge the army officer, not the opposite. So what does that mean exactly? (Out-of-universe, I know that there lines were switched, but it would be interesting to get a good in-universe explanation.)

    It also had Vader levitating a hot cup of coffee.
  6. Kenneth Morgan Force Ghost

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    Unless I'm mistaken, the character descriptions in the photo insert with my old paperback copy of the ANH novelization specifically says that Tarkin wants to become Emperor himself. I'm not sure how this fares in terms of canonicity.
  7. Iron_lord Force Ghost

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    I think it had to do with taunting- didn't The Essential Guide to Warfare actually mention the rivalry between Tagge and Motti, and that particular remark?

    EDIT: it was The Essential Atlas- page 170:

    Established military doctrine was that the navy commanded space, giving the army protection for ground assaults. The new model, as championed by Admiral Conan Antonio Motti (to the horror of more tradition-minded admirals), was that the mere threat of the Death Star left the army free to act. If the army met resistance on a world, it would withdraw and the Death Star would threaten that world. General Cassio Tagge disagreed. For one thing, he believed that the existing model was more flexible and efficient than Motti's idea. For another, he thought the Alliance fleet was bigger and more of a threat than Motti and many in the navy believed, and the Death Star was siphoning off needed funds from projects such as the stalled Super Star Destroyer. The two argued frequently and bitterly, to the point of the admiral baiting the general with mocking references to "your starfleet" - an irony Tarkin might have enjoyed if the two's bickering hadn't habitually complicated operations.
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  8. LelalMekha Jedi Grand Master

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    My mistake, then. ;) But my remarks about the last unidentified officer, as well as Cass' rank and position are still valid, I think. Well, I hope so. :D
  9. CeiranHarmony Force Ghost

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    need... to... reread... Death Star... novel...

    If we talk Tarkin, Death Star, Motti, Tagge und co I'd want the Death Star novel to be further explored/expanded... like where did the 1000 X-Wings and the Lucrehulc Rebel Cruiser come from? (I guess, that was Yavin Base's detachement of fighters and cruisers that got sent off explaining why x-wings and r2s were in short supply, as were pilots after the loss).

    Also, Death Star plans... [face_batting] I know there was supposed to be a retcon in Death Star novel... but did it help at all?

    As for Motti, Tagge, Tarkin, and Co... I want to have lots more about them... full novels about Tagge.. another about Motti... etc. more pre-ANH stuff and ANH-leadin stuff. Marvelstyle even ;)

    may also be interesting to or not to tie some of them to the plot against Vader in "To take the Tarkin" and to further elaborate all the intrigue between pro-superweapon and pro-starfleet factions.
  10. The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth

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    I would imagine Yularen would provide a lot of interesting possibilities to explore.

    Maybe explore the use of the holo projector in the middle of the table thats never used? I would think something like Dejarik would be the equivalent to Solitaire or Tetris in a normal office environment. Could be some humor to mine there ("That man is playing Galaga. He didn't think we'd notice, but we did.").
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  11. Sable_Hart Force Ghost

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    While we're on the subject, I admit that the novel's premise is... unlikely, but I think Death Star is a great book.
  12. Havac Some Guy Who Moderates Lit

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    I would absolutely love to see the topic of the meeting addressed -- the dissolution of the Senate. There's the small continuity issue, which I think is interesting, that Palpatine is said to have formally suspended the Senate for the duration of the emergency rather than abolishing it outright, so I'd love to see the implications of that addressed. I also think it would be interesting to peek behind the curtain in general. For such a crucial moment, we see very little about it, and I think we could always stand to have the issue addressed from the perspective of everywhere outside the briefing room -- what Palpatine's process was, what the Coruscanti bureaucracy and the Senate itself's response was, what the public at large thought of it, whether it prompted any crackdowns on dissident senators, that sort of thing.