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the os has more on practical effects including the pt.

5 Cool Practical Effects in Star Wars | StarWars.com

 

I like that phrase.

 

It would've been reported if Lucas was going around calling the existing movies the "original" saga. Unless you have a source?

It's not much of a name anyway bcs original doesn't mean legitimate. It just means the initial stages or something that has been directly copied. As a term it doesn't invalidate what comes later in a series. Besides the "original saga" is the OT. That's where SW originated. The PT & the ST were decades later, so aren't "original". Doesn't mean they aren't legitimate though

Note: For the sake of others the clone discussion has been relocated to the appropriate forum: Clones

 

He means both PT and OT with, OS, but I don't think he means it to invalidate later episodes.

Anybody hear the rumor that Rebels may bring back Mace Windu.

 

Little acknowledgement from KK about all 6 movies (even though it's an obvious point):

“The Saga films focus on the Skywalker family saga,” she explains. “The stories follow a linear narrative that connects to the previous six films. The Force Awakens follows Return of the Jedi and continues that generational story. The Anthology films offer opportunities to explore fresh characters, new storylines and a variety of genres inside the Star Wars universe.”
http://www.starwars7news.com/2015/1...cus-of-the-star-wars-saga-films-and-more.html

& this new canon story about young Luke, his encounters with Obi-Wan etc is pretty cool. The whole 3 part comic is online:
http://www.webtoons.com/en/sf/Star Wars/ch-1-an-old-friend/viewer?title_no=544&episode_no=1

 

I'm glad the canon & Lucas have declared that the storm-troopers are made up of at least some regular people. We need that to explain how hopeless they are compared to the awesome clones of the PT. Having them as all clones still would be beyond stupid. No way the clones would be such incompetent buffoons! Now it makes sense

 

So The Force Awakens IS focusing on the Skywalkers? Hopefully she's not lying as it would help it fit in with the others more.

 

"Hopefully she's not lying."

lol.

 

In ANH, they mowed down the rebels on Tantive IV. Only took a couple of STs to drop several rebel troopers, for every ST that fell, 3 rebels would fall, that is also awesome.

 

Come on. The stormies suck compared to the Clone-troopers. George said several times post PT that it was because they were partially made up of less capable conscripts. Thats because no one in their right mind would think they were the same guys as in the pt and tcw. Why would any pt fan want the awesome Jango clones as being the buffoons of the OT!!

 

The guys in the PT are different from TCW, very different portrayals. As I said before, the Empire using manufactered disposable men that nobody will mourn as troops fits their cold machine culture like hand in glove. Like any other bad guy henchmen, they have good aim and bad aim when the script calls for it. In ROTS the clones cound not hit Organa, Obi-Wan, and Yoda. The recruits for stormtroopers started out as EU from the 70s that contradicted LFL's stance that they are clones. The idea they are clones has been around since the 70s and is older than the EU recruit idea.

 

Actually the clone-trooper thing wasn't his thought back in the 70s drafts of ANH at all. The clone wars was a completely separate thing from the stormies. Stormies>clones was a theory that popped up after that. Also the buffoonery was a big reason for george declaring that the stormies of the OT were partly conscripts. At the time of ROTS there was a SW Insider article where he explains this. Its referenced in alot of dicussions back then, here's one on killermovies http://www.killermovies.com/forums/...97903-ot-stormtroopers-finally-explained.html
I could dig out and scan the article for you if you like.

 

Please be nice.

 

If you look earlier in this thread, there is a link to a 1978 LFL, article that states stormtroopers are clones and describes alot of what we end up seeing in AOTC of how they are grown. Of course this is 78 so it doesn't state anything about Jango clones, just general clones. There are also a couple of times Lucas had indicated they are all Jango clones such as his DVD commentary statement about Jango's head bumping trait being cloned into all the stormtroopers and agreeing that all ST'S are "the same guy." He even went as far as ordering Hasbro to put Jango clone heads on all the helmeted imp figures, starring with DS, gunners. It wasn't Hasbro's decision as they would not want to make a figure more complex than they have too, they stated it was a order from Lucas. Then he goes and makes ST'S voices more consistent than they already were.

However, at this point looking at the different statements he has made, it seems like even he doesn't really know himself. Sometimes he says they are all Jango clones, sometimes he says they are a mix of different clones, and other times he says they are a mix of different clones and recruits. The latest statement Downunder brought up Lucas conflicts with himself. The part where he goes "umm, yeah" indicates he was caught off guard by the interviewer and scrambled. But being a quick thinker provided multiple explanations to suit any nick picking gripe.

At this point, any argument for either of the three possibilities above are going to be inductive. What has been show at least is that stormtroopers in film canon and Lucas canon aren't all recruits like Rebels pushes. However Rebels isn't wrong for being different, it is just different, a Filoni canon if you will.

 

Spoiler: Possible spoiler/speculation on Kylo Ren's name and it's meaning!

Prequel connection!

 

That's just ......bizarre.

 

Or is it? We got about 76 more days (I think) until we find out.

 

I have heard more Bizzare things about the ST like cloned Anakin.

 

Interesting.

 

I have to admit I'm a bit more interested in Episode VII after seeing some store ads and looking up some more info, which I haven't done in sometime. There was, however, still a complete lack of prequel products so there's still that.

Still not thrilled about nothing evolving or changing though (X-Wings, Stormtroopers, TIE Fighters, etc.)

 

The FO Stromtroopers are about as far removed from the OT Stormtroopers as the Clone Troopers were.

 

Fine, but are any of the ships removed greatly from the OT?

Other than the one shuttle we've seen, which doe look like it might be bit more unique.

 

Depending on your view, they may be far more removed than the STs are from the PT troops.

Still, the TFA feels like there is alot of OT rehash, basically rebranded rebels and imps still duking it out.

 

I just went back and looked over Ultimate Star Wars and I noticed that in his foreword, Anthony Daniels mentioned that he was the only actor to be in all seven films. I was pretty sure Kenny Baker was in VII, correct?

 

^^^^^

Don't get on to Anthony Vs Kenny, LOL!