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  1. PADAWAN_EVASTAR Jedi Knight

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    Decaf??? OUTE o kanonikos de me piani emena...[face_coffee]
    (oraio to videaki Sithi, an kai to ida ki afto vouvo...Hey, den pistevo na'nai diko sou, eh??)



    Urka paidi mou, ti kanis stin Patra?????


    Oraio to piratiko stylaki pou iothetise i kendriki selida ton boards, eh?:)
    Mipos chriazete ki i diki mas edo pera ligi ananeosi, mi vlepoume sinechia ta idia kai ta idia?[face_thinking]
  2. Urkanoid Force Ghost

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    Eixa paei gia kati doulitses to Paraskeuosabbato... OK itan... To banner tou main page einai proswrino, tha gurisei pali sta palia. Oso gia to diko mas skeftomoun na ftiaxw ena kainourio, molis brw xrono ap' ti douleia mou fainetai oti kati tha kanw...[face_whistling] :D
  3. Starkeiller Force Ghost

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    It appears that Urka's talents are in demand on multiple fronts. [face_peace]

    Chwris icho DEN YPARCHEI to videaki. Einai mia palia diafimisi kai to tragoudi einai OLA ta lefta.
  4. PADAWAN_EVASTAR Jedi Knight

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    [face_laugh] Ontos...POLI KALO to videaki ME icho, Starkeiller![face_laugh] Poliiiii gelIo!!!8-}
    Tha borouse na paizi ki o Bush sti thesi aftounou, eh? Miazoun...o_O

    Ante loipon, Urka! Efchome na doume grigora a brand new deco edo mesa!;)
  5. Starkeiller Force Ghost

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    E oti moiazei o Bush me to Scott Bakula den eicha fandastei oti tha to akouga! [face_laugh] [face_laugh] [face_laugh] [face_laugh] Na ton proteinoume gia to rolo an gyristei kamia tainia me to Bush!
  6. Urkanoid Force Ghost

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    Mpa, an guristei tainia me to Bush uparxoun polu kaluteroi upopsifioi na ton upodithoun... Alla einai polu nwris akoma gia na arxisw ta kaka logakia...;)
  7. PADAWAN_EVASTAR Jedi Knight

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    An ine ki o opados tou, tha theli na dosi O'TI kalitero bori os erminia, oste na timisi ton axiotimo proedro ton US, na diekdikisi to agalmatidio kai na skorpisi afthono gelio s'emas tous ipolipous...[face_laugh] [face_devil] :p



    [ah, den icha di to post sou, Urka! Ego prokopsa kai petaxa tis kakioules mou...[face_blush]]
  8. Urkanoid Force Ghost

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    De bariesai mwre Eva, xwstou tou k@$#%^&! [face_laugh]
  9. gianakin Jedi Knight

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    Na po tin alitheia, mia tainia gia ti Zoi k to Thanato tou George W. Bush de tha me xalage. Ton thanato fisika tha eprepe na ton pragmatopoiisoume sintoma gia na vgei pliris i tainia, kati pou den me xalaei katholou!
  10. Urkanoid Force Ghost

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    Hmm... H Zoi k o Thanatos tou George W. Bush...[face_thinking] Akougetai polu san to "H Zoi kai o Thanatos tis diaroias tou gerikou kai gematou lepra skulou mou"... Nai, nomizw prepei na guristei...
  11. gianakin Jedi Knight

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    Na valoume mpros to project tote?
  12. PADAWAN_EVASTAR Jedi Knight

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    [face_laugh] Kaloooooo! Archiste tis epafes me ton agendi tou Oliver Stone (den iparchi periptosi na min theli na girisi to zoi kai to THANATO tou proedrou tou!:p)
  13. gianakin Jedi Knight

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    Sovara,o Stone einai antiamerikanaki? Ton eixa gia arketa ksipnio alla me ti nea tou tainia to World Trade Center nomizo pos paei na ti vgei pao allou...
  14. PADAWAN_EVASTAR Jedi Knight

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    Allo "antiamerikanaki" ki allo "antidrasi stin politiki tis Amerikis". Krinontas ton apo kapies sigekrimenes tainies tou (px gennimenos tin 4i Iouliou, Platoon), alla kai apo synedefksis klp, echi kani me ton tropo tou kafstiki kritiki gia tin politiki tis Amerikis. Gia ton sygekrimeno proedro, na sou po tin alithia, den echo "apodichtika stichia" oti den ton egrini, alla to fantazomai aplos vasi ton mechri tora ergon tou.
    To "World Trade Center" den to ixera. Tora piga ki erixa mia matia sto imdb, alla ap'oso diavasa prokite aplos gia mia tainia pou den emberiechi kathoulou "politikes" spondes, para mono theli na tonisi ton iroismo 2 anthropon pou ezisan tin kolasi klp klp klp.
  15. gianakin Jedi Knight

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    Malista... A, na doum
  16. Starkeiller Force Ghost

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    Ofeilw na pw pws i arnitiki stasi apenandi se tainies pou aforoun ti 9/11 den einai katholou swsti. Afto pou egine tote itan mia pangosmia tragwdia, ochi aplws mia katastrofi stin Ameriki pou egine, tin klapsane kai teleiwse. Itan ena trandachto simadi pou afypnise ton kosmo gyrw apo ena pangosmio provlima. Polloi anthrwpoi afypnistikan viaia kai lanthasmena. Odigise kai se alles tragwdies ki apo tis dyo plevres, alla den einai swsto na thewreite pws mia tainia me thema ti 9/11 tha einai aftomata ena amerikaniko patriwtiko paralyrima. Ta gegonota ekeina kalyptoun para pollous tomeis tis simerinis pragmatikotitas pou xepernoun ton amerikaniko patriwtismo. De boroume na poume oti opoios aggizei to thema xepeftei aftomata se kapoio paraptwma patriwtismou, poly apla giati to thema einai poly pio periploko. To United 93 itan poly kali tainia, me thema tin ptisi pou oi epivates xesikwthikane kai piastikane sta cheria me tous tromokrates kai telika to aeroplano epese se kati chwrafia stin Pennsylvania adi gia ti Washington. I tainia prospathouse na einai oso to dinaton pio konda stin pragmatikotita einai dynaton, thisiazondas akoma kai tin omali tis roi gia na to petychei, chwris na xepeftei pote se paralyrimata patriwtismou, andiamerikanismou, andiislamismou 'i otidipote allo pou emberiechei fanatismo. To mono pou afine na vgei itan i frikti atmosfaira mesa se ena aeroplano pou ws epivatis alla kai ws aeropeiratis ixeres pws telika tha pethaneis. O Stone ap' o,ti katalava thelei na estiasei sti frikti atmosfaira sto edafos. Borei telika i tainia na einai ena paralyrima patriwtismou 'i o,tidipote allou, alla to thema tis den odigei aftomata ekei se kamia periptwsi.
  17. gianakin Jedi Knight

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    Ok, sevasti i gnomi sou, apla emena den me aggizei kati tetoio.
    Emena me aggizei to Fahrenheit 9/11 kai oxi ta themata pou pianei to United 93 kai to WTC. Pethanan athooi, sigoura, alla gia mena o tropos na sevasteis kai na timiseis ti mnimi tous einai na deikseis poios i poioi eferan kommatia tis efthinis, opos ekane o Moore.
    O kosmos den afipnistike. Isa isa apokoimithike perissotero piso apo mlkies kai fovous gia mia dithen tromokratia kai petixan ton skopo tous aftoi pou to estisan. Apo afti tin plevra dexomai oti einai orosimo. Alla otan kikloforoun tetoies oudeteres politika tainies, eno ektimo tin prospatheia tous, sto telos tis meras mou fainontai sinaisthimatikes k anousies, otan exoun na kanoun me ena tetoio thema. As afisoun tin sigkinisi kai to klama stin pragmatiki zoi.
    Xoris na thelo na ennoiso oti iposineidita pane na strepsoun olon ton kosmo gia na pei "oi kakomoiroi oi Amerikanoi", nomizo pos kathe noimon anthropos mporei kai xoris tainia na ektimisei tin anthropini (poso mallon xiliades) zoi. Otan meta apo kamia 50aria xronia (k an) lithei to politiko kai praktiko tou thematos, tote as kanoun oses xiliades tainies theloun. Oso omos o kosmos (mesa se afton k ego, ennoeitai) kanei tsimpoukia sta kefalia piso apo tin 9/11, tote tha protimiso na min doso idiaiteri vasi se aftes tis 2 tainies pou vgikan. Xoris afto, ksanaleo, na simainei oti den ksero i den mporo na ektimiso ti simaine ekeini i mera gia ton kosmo. Opote, asto i proetoimasou gia mia terastia sizitisi.
  18. Starkeiller Force Ghost

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    No, dude, let's go! Let's bring this thing to its knees!

    Kai tha meinw se 1 simeio apo to post sou: "O kosmos den afipnistike. Isa isa apokoimithike perissotero piso apo mlkies kai fovous gia mia dithen tromokratia kai petixan ton skopo tous aftoi pou to estisan", les. DITHEN TROMOKRATIA???? Prin prochwrisoume parakatw, xekatharise mou kati... De thewreis yparkto to provlima me tous trelous fanatikous islamistes me tis vomves paramaschala? Poioi estisan ti? Giati ma einai etsi, na to paroume alliws to thema.
  19. gianakin Jedi Knight

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    Fisika einai provlima, alla afto einai to epifaneiako kommati.
    Afto pou pragmatika me provlimatizei einai oi ipokinites ton islamiston (pou den einai tpt allo apo ilithia fanatismena pionia). K apo afta pou gnorizo, den einai mono oi Bin Laden kai sigoura den einai gia Iero Polemo. Einai oi Bush (k vevaia aftoi pou eiani piso apo tin oikogeneia afti, alloste posoi Proedroi ton HPA den itan pionia? Elaxistoi) kai oi Laden mazi kai to kanoun gia alla simferonta. O Ieros Polemos einai i agathi aploiki eksigisi pou edosan ston kosmo gia na ton fanatisoun (toulaxiston tous amerikanous, pou tous taizei to CNN me xeirotera psemmata apo 10 ALTER mazi).
    Opote, nai, emmeno sto oti o kosmos afipnistike.
  20. Starkeiller Force Ghost

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    Kala, ondws den echei noima na synechisoume. As' to gi' alli fora. Peace [face_peace]
  21. Urkanoid Force Ghost

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    Exete kai oi duo dikio. Ypo tin exis ennoia. Af enos o Johnny orthws upostirizei oti auto einai ena problima pollaplis fusews kai af eterou o Sifis exei dikio na epikentrwnetai stin Antrwpini kai Oikoumeniki diastasi tou problimatos. H ousia mias tetoias katastasis einai polu kala krummeni katw apo dekaeties politikooikonomikwn diergasiwn gia tis opoies mono mia geniki eikona mporoume na exoume. Nomizw oti o swstoteros tropos na proseggisei kaneis ena tetoio thema einai mesw tis meletis tis Istorias. Ta anoita kai thlibera paixnidia twn antrwpwn, oi anosies sunomwsies pou dimiourgountai gia na exupiretisoun sumferonta merikwn mono etwn, apokruptografountai polu eukolotera otan exetastoun upo to prisma tou xronou... Ontws kalutera tha einai na ta poume ola auta apo konta...
  22. PADAWAN_EVASTAR Jedi Knight

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    Parolo pou m'aresi na kanoume sovares sizitisis, tha simfoniso me ton Urka, oti paraine periploko to thema gia na to analysoume edo....NOTHING As It Seems guys...Echo katalavi pia oti tipota ma tipota then ine opos fenete kai gia na vri kanis tin aitia i tin pigi tou kakou, prepi na echi kani apires meletes, istorikes anadromes kai na xeri i esto na echi kapos katalavi to simerino politiko paichnidi. Px gia ton polemo sto Irak echo akousi to ligotero 3 aities gia ton opoio egine: I 1i ine gia na vgaloun to Sadam ap'ti mesi (afti ine i plisi egefalou pou kanoun oi Amerikani stous Amerikanous)kai kala egathidrisi Dimokratias, exasfalisi tis irinis sti Mesi Anatoli apo tous Ironipious Amerikanous kai kourafexala, 2i gia ikonomikous logous logo ton petreleon (me petreleo kinite i pagosmia oikonomia) kai triti gia thriskeftikous logous toutestin na exalifthoun oi Mousoulmani i opii lei, logo fanatismou, theloun na epivlithoun pagosmios me tin tromokratia (kai na kiriarchisoun oi Evrei mipos??[face_thinking] )...Ade vres akri tora esi...[face_frustrated]
  23. Urkanoid Force Ghost

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    Akribws gia auto to logo einai duskoli i anazitisi tis alitheias. Giati kaneis tha prepei na kinithei mesa apo mia plithwra pseudwn i stin kaluteri periptwsi anakribeiwn gia na anakalupsei tin pragmatiki ufi twn gegonotwn. Einai mia para polu lepti diadikasia stin opoia an theloume na epituxoume prepei na eimaste anoixtoi pros ola ta endexomena kai se kamia periptwsi na min akoume autous pou fwnazoun. H adunamia kai i plastotita tous einai euthews analogi tis entasis tis fwnis tous.
    Kai ta tria senaria pou paretheses Eva, einai alithina. Ekfrazoun apolutes alitheies gia diaforetikes koinwnikes, oikonomikes kai fuletikes omades. Poia einai omws i antikeimeniki alitheia i opoia uperbainei oles autes tis profaseis kai i opoia mporei na ginei antilipti anexartitws apo ti thesi tou ekastwte paratiriti? Se ena kosmo gemato egwistika onta opws einai oi anthrwpoi, ston opoio basileuei i upokeimenikotita, auti einai isws i pio skliri kai thewritiki anazitisi stin ipoia mporei kaneis na afosiwthei. H pollaplotita twn gnwmwn kai twn dogmatwn pou ufistantai kathistoun oli auti ti diadikasia exisou epiponi kai mataih me tin anazitisi enos maurou kokkou se mia thalassa apo leuki ammo.
    Ola ta anoita politika paixnidia tis ratsas mas den einai para ta sumptwmata mias astheneias. Orthws exoume paromiastei me enan io o opoios diaftheirei kai bebilwnei auton ton planiti. H alitheia loipon, i apoluti alitheia tha prepei na ereunithei se kati pera apo emas, ta thnita onta me tous apelpismenous politismous, tha prepei na ereunithei philosofika kai se sxesi me ton Kosmo kai tin prosilwsi mas se auton. Oso analwnomaste se epimerous fainomena tis dikis mas malista kataskeuis tha skontaftoume se upokatastata alitheias kai aenaews epanalambanomena motiba ekptwsis, apwleias kai mataiotitas.
  24. Starkeiller Force Ghost

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    Twra i syzitisi xefyge PARA POLY, alla to thewrw kalo afto.

    Loipon:
    1.) Den yparchei andikeimeniki alitheia. I ennoia tis mias kai monadikis alitheias pou yparchei pisw apo ta kai kala "psevdi" twn diaforwn opsewn kai apopsewn einai mia megali fouskwti floba pou ama skasei tha chythoun megaloprepws oi myriades pragmatikotites kai alitheies pou yparchoun. Ochi mono afto, alla oi axies kai oi alitheies den einai kan statheres, allazoun kai metexelissonai. Oses symvaseis kai na kanoume, pote de tha kataferoume na poume oti vrikame tin Thewria twn Pandwn se themata ithikis ktl. Sofo einai loipon, oson afora tin "alitheia", na meinoume se apla pramatakia pou einai oso koda oso kai ta cherakia mas ta apolytws vasika pou einai vathia rizwmena stis symvaseis pou echoume dechtei.
    2.) O anthrwpos einai to mono noimon on sti Gi. Afto einai ena dwro, einai kata ti gnwmi mou o,ti pio kodino yparchei se afto pou polloi apo pistoi ews thriskoliptoi apokaloun "theio". Osa kaka epondai aftou loipon tou "theiou dwrou" prepei na thewroundai paraplevres apwleieies. Oi anthrwpoi den einai i astheneia tou planiti, einai to megalytero tou dwro. Yparchei afto pou legetai "exeliksi", i opoia einai adyswpiti kai podopata to palio gia chari tou kainourgiou. Oso pio brosta prochwame, toso pio poly epitachinetai i exeliski kai toso pio apotoma pata katw to palio. I exeliksi oso prochwra toso pio polla kaka fernei mazi tis gia osa menoun pisw. O anthrwpos einai i kwrwnida tis exeliksis, gi' afto kai echei speirei ekatommyria kaka sto perivallon pou menei pisw tou. Den aksizei omws ton kopo an skeftei kaneis apo pou xekinise kai pou borei na ftasei? Den aksizei ton kopo an skeftei kaneis pws to gegonos kai mono oti borei na to skeftei einai meros aftou tou dwrou, aftou pou polloi paromoiazoun me astheneia? Allwste proswpika pistevw oti telika to perivallon panda angaliazei afto pou exelisetai kai exelisetai mazi tou, afto einai kai to noima tis exelixis. Pistevw pws apopseis pou mas paromoiazoun ws eidos me astheneia, diakindinevondas na aksoustw san ton Palpatine, obstruct us from reaching our full potential.
  25. PADAWAN_EVASTAR Jedi Knight

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    [i apantisi kollai amesos meta to post tou Urka. Miso na diavaso kai tou Sithi...]
    An imoun ekdotis sovaris efimeridas i periodikou (pou den iparchi dld[face_tired] )tha se icha proslavi me chilia kai malista me ton ipsilotero mistho, Urka!:)
    Ola afta pou egrapses prin, to ligo to ligotero sinesthima pou boroun na sou prokalesoun ine na archisis na vlepis ton kosmo me alla matia. Ola afta pou molis egrapses, eno zoun mesa mou, panta iparchi kati pou den ta afini na anaptichthoun...Mono ligi tileorasi na do, na diavaso mia efimerida, na xefilisso ena periodiko kai...i plisi egefalou has been successfully downloaded sto myaloudaki mou kai tin echo kani me elafra apo tis iposinithites aftes skepsis mou, sinechizontas na paizo to diko tous paichnidi. To paichnidi tou chrimatos (ola xekinoun apo afto gia na katalixoun se afto). Eno echo bouchtisi apo olous kai ola pou vlepo i diavazo kai de thelo na vlepo pia oute idisis oute enimerotikes\politikes ekpobes i na diavazo efimerides, aftomata meta stigmatizome os i "ston kosmo tis", i "animeroti", i "asxeti", i "paraxeni". Asxeto, alla tairiazi me to paixnidi tou marketing afto: Epidi den echo di para to 1o episodio tou "Para Pente" kai kanena allo, charaktirizome ap'olous tous ipolipous os "?????" i epidi de vlepo to "kafe tis charas" i epidi den xero an tha psifiso kai TI tha psifiso stis prosechis ekloges (ki aftes gia to chrima de ginontai??). I anazitisi tis apolitis loipon alithias pou aneferes, Urka, ine opos otan ena paidaki di fatsa-karta ena oraio glykaki kai molis pai na to piasi, tou paizi mia sto cheri i mama: "Eeeep! Den ine gia sena!". Etsi niotho ki ego. Akoma ki an telika katafero kai vro tin apoliti alithia, to ti akrivos simveni me tous anthropous kai ton kosmo, tha pesoun pano mou san ta korakia na me "syneferoun" kai na me xanaferoun ston kosmo tous, sto paichnidi tous. Se afto pou "prepi" na ime, na paizo to rolo pou mou anathetoun kai to paichnidi na synechizetai kanonika...
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