Hitler was a nightmare that tore apart Europe and made the rest of the world go through a living Hell, but he was still human. I agree and my definition still allows for Hitler to be human. He still had the capability to contibute to society in a positive way. Doesn't mean he did...or would have. Think about it, everyone can contribute. Also Hitler didn't do it alone. He couldn't have done so much damage without pre-existing antisemitism. Hitler was evil, can't argue that. But whats an evil guys without an army? It took a group to tear apart Europe, and it didn't start with Hitler. But I digress. But these poor children will be deformed/crippled/mocked and ridiculed because, for some reason, they are doomed to a substandard lifestyle. If you'll read the post responding to Starfire you'll see that I advocate no such arguments from this "day and age". I specifically used the word ALL. And of course we are all born human, no one argues that, certainly not I. the philosophical opening in my definition allows for the dehumanization of ones self. Suicide for example. To reach a point that you not only don't want to contibute, but you want to remove your potential to do so. Anyone else? I'm willing to reconsider my definition, but twisting or simply not reading my words isn't the way to get me to do so.