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Senate Abortion: Why not?

Discussion in 'Community' started by Boba Nekhbet, Feb 11, 2016.

  1. Hef

    Hef Jedi Master star 2

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    This seems to be a thread about moderator editing issues and the personal fantasies of others.

    Is there a place where one would post a video like this:
     
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  2. Violent Violet Menace

    Violent Violet Menace JCC Ravager star 5 Staff Member Manager

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    I thought the purple text made it clear that it was me. I and Merk are the only ones who use it, and Merk is not a JCC mod. I'll add my name next time. I've often seen mods my senior edit posts without giving a reason before, when the reason is or should be obvious to the person whose post was edited. In this case, the entire post was one sentence that was a lewd comment directed to J-rod, suggesting that he gets sexual pleasure from news that anti-abortionists might characterise as a "win" (the word "win" is mine, Darth Guy's sentence was different). Conferring with fellow JCC mod, heels1785, I suggested that the post was distasteful and did not contribute anything of substance, to which he agreed, and I subsequently removed the post's content. Now that I have basically reinstated Guy's post with prettier words, I hope my explanation is to your satisfaction.
     
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  3. Outsourced

    Outsourced Jedi Master star 4

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    We all saw it the first time, Hef.

    You don't have to repost it under some guise of awareness to signal boost it.
     
  4. Boba Nekhbet

    Boba Nekhbet Jedi Master star 4

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    I mean, if you've been a mod for... how long now? And don't know the difference between editing with "snip" and editing with "inappropriate flame" then I can't help you. No one needed a full description, but I've seen mods get corrected for not putting any edit reason at all for at least fourteen years. Seems like it should be pretty straightforward. Sorry I don't keep track of who posts in purple, I'll write it in my diary.

    @Hef - I watched that and I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. You think people in abortion clinics are regularly performing infanticide on healthy babies that accidentally get delivered instead of aborted?
     
  5. Outsourced

    Outsourced Jedi Master star 4

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    Speaking of not understanding the point, what is your point in having this conversation? In this thread of all places? What are you trying to accomplish?
     
  6. Boba Nekhbet

    Boba Nekhbet Jedi Master star 4

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    Well at first I was trying to figure out who edited the post and what was edited out, since apparently the new board software allows @Violent Violet Menace to choose to edit anonymously and only notify the person he edited, which has never been acceptable for a mod to do. It devolved from there because he's never been able to just own a mistake and correct it, which would have ended the whole discussion.

    I'm trying to get it back on track now. You'll notice the part you didn't quote from my post was a response to Hef's video.
     
  7. dp4m

    dp4m Chosen One star 10

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  8. Violent Violet Menace

    Violent Violet Menace JCC Ravager star 5 Staff Member Manager

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    I didn't specifically intend to do it anonymously. The new forum software just says "edited by a moderator" by default.
     
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  9. Diggy

    Diggy Force Ghost star 7

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    You've just made your workload unbearably large, V.
     
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  10. Outsourced

    Outsourced Jedi Master star 4

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    Yeah. Because it wasn't relevant to my calling you out for publicly bashing a mod in the abortion thread. Just like the part of the post I didn't quote wasn't relevant to this point.
     
  11. Boba Nekhbet

    Boba Nekhbet Jedi Master star 4

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    What are you trying to accomplish?
     
  12. Outsourced

    Outsourced Jedi Master star 4

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    Exactly.
     
  13. Rogue1-and-a-half

    Rogue1-and-a-half Manager Emeritus who is writing his masterpiece star 8 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    When I see Darth Guy get edited while talking to J-Rod, I feel like I more or less know the reason.
     
  14. a star war

    a star war Jedi Master star 4

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    It's about precedent. This is the same mod who thought it was all right to edit people's posts and lock the thread. It's the same kind of shadiness. Transparency must be upheld.
     
  15. Hef

    Hef Jedi Master star 2

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    In the context of late term abortions, and as attested to by those in the video, it is the practice of this clinic to instruct women in labor to immediately contact them for a potential live infanticide where no attempts will be made to help save the life of or give comfort to the just born infant.
     
  16. vin

    vin Force Ghost star 5

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    This entire thread has turned into an abortion.

    I wish the mods would vacuum it away.
     
  17. Boba Nekhbet

    Boba Nekhbet Jedi Master star 4

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    I'm not sure where you're getting that. The doctor said if you deliver while you're on the way to the clinic you should still come to the clinic. That's what any doctor would instruct, since she'll need post-natal care. She said "we'll help" - she never said or implied anything about infanticide. Assuming this person doesn't have an OB-GYN, where else is she going to go? It would be irresponsible for them to tell her not to seek medical care from a physician directly after giving birth.
     
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  18. dp4m

    dp4m Chosen One star 10

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    Just curious -- but if the prognosis is for the child to struggle, painfully, to breathe for somewhere from 1 - 3 hours and then die by suffocation -- would you prefer that to happen vs. sedation methods available to any consenting adult in hospice at end of life?
     
  19. Hef

    Hef Jedi Master star 2

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    Typically she could also call the closest hospital, wherever her other family and neighbors deliver live babies, and see what transpires.
     
  20. Boba Nekhbet

    Boba Nekhbet Jedi Master star 4

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    She should go wait in an emergency room for hours instead of going to the physician she has an existing patient relationship with who is ready to see her immediately. Gotcha.
     
  21. Hef

    Hef Jedi Master star 2

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    Premature infants do thrive when helped to survive, given incubator (struggles to breathe), warm human comfort, etc.
     
  22. Juliet316

    Juliet316 Chosen One star 10

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    Or be $14,000 in the hole.
     
  23. dp4m

    dp4m Chosen One star 10

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    This is where there is a chance for survival -- I'm talking where prognosis is 100% fatal, post-birth. You're arguing a non-existent condition.
     
  24. Rylo Ken

    Rylo Ken Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    but, you, know, it depends on how premature, the birthweight, etc, and a lot of these extremely premature infants carry significant health issues with them into the rest of their lives IF they survive. I know it's fun to get all outraged about the margins of practice, but trying to figure out what to do at 23 weeks is an experience that only a tiny fraction of women have whether they want the baby or not and no one envies them their selection of choices, and maybe you're not qualified to judge.
     
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  25. CT-867-5309

    CT-867-5309 Force Ghost star 6

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    Abortion doctors only do harm. It's part of their Hypocritical Oath.
     
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