About rescoring the Saga

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  1. baritonep1aya Jedi Knight

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    When Anakin blows up the Droid Control ship in Phantom Menace, you hear this fantastic Force/Duel of the Fates theme. Do you think there's any chance of JW to maybe put that in when Darth turns to good and throws the Emperor into the reactor?

    GK edit: Edited thread title for clarity.
  2. baritonep1aya Jedi Knight

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    I mean, we remember how John recycled the Binary Sunset from ANH into RotJ, so it wouldn't be new or anything...
  3. Well_Of_Souls Jedi Grand Master

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    He didn't recycle the Binary Sunset cue, per se, he just used a similar orchestration of the Force Theme.

    And why should he rescore that part (or ANY part) of the OT in the first place?
  4. General Kenobi Administrator Emeritus

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    Even though this is off slightly from the thread topic, much similar discussion had gone on here.

    As far as scenes from the throne room in ROTJ, the scoring there is perfect! There's no need to tamper with The Dark Side Beckons or The Emperor's Death at all!
  5. Blast Jedi Knight

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    "As far as scenes from the throne room in ROTJ, the scoring there is perfect! There's no need to tamper with The Dark Side Beckons or The Emperor's Death at all!"

    Oh soooooo true.To him you listen!
  6. batvader Jedi Knight

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    The problem with ROTJ is that the sound quality of the RCA album sucks hard compared to the quality of ANH and TESB. Also, the switch between atmospheric music (for Dark Side Beckons, Emp. Death etc.) and loud action cues is sometimes irritating, while the long tracks in TESB didn't have such big changes in tone and had a more smooth flow. I'd love to have both the original version and a more listener-friendly ''re-score''.
  7. Strilo Manager Emeritus

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    Yes the sound quality is HORRID on ROTJ. Even IN the film, the soundtrack sounds like crap. I have them on laserdisc in 5.1 sound from the SE release and you can tell the music sounds crappy even in the film mix. So I feel that, like ANH, ROTJ and even ESB are all candidates for a re-recording of the scores exactly as they appear currently...

  8. General Kenobi Administrator Emeritus

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    Back to the re-recording question. I'm all for it. Just don't add DOTF to the OT.
  9. Strilo Manager Emeritus

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    Yes... no DOTF... that should remain in the first three films. Anakin's theme might work briefly in ROTJ, tho... :D

  10. DARTH_CHINA Force Ghost

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    I want Anakin's theme also in ROTJ and Across the Stars (Luke & Leia's talk about Padme).
  11. Strilo Manager Emeritus

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    See now there's an idea... Remove that piece of "Yoda and the Force" tracked in from ESB and replace it with a new bit ... perhaps using Across the Stars...

    :)

  12. General Kenobi Administrator Emeritus

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    Hmmm, I'm generally not in favor of adding to the OT themes which were new in the PT -- DOTF, TF March, etc. However, that may be a spot where ATS might work well. But it would have to be very low and subtle -- background to Luke's revelation, I think.

    I'm not sure about Anakin's Theme anywhere. He doesn't really return until he kills the Emperor. The death scene in the shuttle bay is already scored beautifully. Would a brief statement work during or right after Luke & Vader's meeting on Endor?
  13. Strilo Manager Emeritus

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    No... I agree Vader's death is scored really well... but I would be willing to give a new piece here a chance.... (give piece a chance... huhuh)

  14. General Kenobi Administrator Emeritus

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  15. TwiLekJedi Pretty Ex-Mod

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    (Oh, please, RMCOY, do something, this silliness may not endure :p :p "give piece a chance" ? ... stri, what did you have for dinner?? :D)





    rerecording would be nice, but no changes.

    except, maybe, not using Hyperspace and Binary Sunset at the end of RotJ, but original things (BoEIII and Light of the Force maybe?)

    same for Hyperspace while the snowspeeders search for Luke and Han
  16. DarthBoba Manager Emeritus

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    NO...the music for that scene is perfect. The music when Anakin destroys the TF battleship is big, happy, overwhelming. The somber yet powerful Force Theme when vader destroys the Emperor lets us know that while the good guys are gonna win this one, it's not gonna be happily-ever-after after they win.
  17. Strilo Manager Emeritus

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    I don't really see much in Jedi that I would CHANGE. Most of my issues with the Jedi score are simply sound quality, which is HORRID. Go listen to the 20th Anniversary E.T. CD and tell me why Jedi sounds worse than ANH when it is NEWER than E.T.

  18. Wolverine Jedi Grand Master

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    A re-recording, I can live with.
    But the only change that I can live with or imagine is to ad just a hint of imperial march as vader enters Leia's ship in ANH.
    Bt not much. Just with Some solo wood or something. But I don't think that should be done. But I understand why it would be done.
  19. TheBoogieMan Manager Emeritus

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    if it aint broke, don't fix it. :)
  20. Strilo Manager Emeritus

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    And if it is broke, then do fix it.

  21. TheBoogieMan Manager Emeritus

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    ok so basically:

    Re-score = not needed
    Re-recording = needed

    am i right?
  22. obi_wan_kanathan Jedi Master

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    Recording is necessary. Rescoring might be ok. I do think that some of ANH needs to be rescored with the Imp March, and I think that a hint of ATS when Luke and Leia talk about their mother sounds good. Maybe if they left most of the music for DV's death the same, I wouldn't mind Anakin's theme in ROTJ.
  23. Strilo Manager Emeritus

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  24. darkOmegazer0 Jedi Master

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    Can I ask why? WHY must we do this? what is the point of putting PT music in the OT? Let's put Jar Jar hanging off Luke's X-Wing aright? That's a good idea, great for continuity.
  25. General Kenobi Administrator Emeritus

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    There are many things that would not be logical to put in the OT. But if the IM, for example, is in the other five films, it would be logical to add it to ANH. You can certainly disapprove of this. You can say you like the ANH score the way it is.

    Themes exclusive to the PT, like DOTF or ATS probably do not belong in OT. Jar-Jar on an X-wing doesn't work. There is little logic to do that. But you can't deny the logic of the IM in ANH.
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