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Arena Abuse Scandals in Sports

Discussion in 'Community' started by Darth McClain, Nov 9, 2011.

  1. Juliet316

    Juliet316 Chosen One star 10

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    Their finally going to take away Sandusky's pension. Finally. They should have done it when he was first convicted.​
     
  2. Guinastasia

    Guinastasia Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    Actually, I don't believe he does. I think that Sandusky truly believes he did nothing wrong, and that he really is the victim here. I don't think he believes that he ever did anything to hurt those kids -- that what he did was totally okay, that he was actually helping them. He strikes me as someone who's seriously deluded. Watch the Costas interview. He never really denied he was attracted to kids -- it was his lawyer who actually said it.

    In fact, I think a lot of pedophiles don't believe they're doing anything wrong. Some of them think that their relationships are reciprocal, and I think that's what Sandusky believes.

    Either way, he'll go on thinking he's a victim. Oh well. Let him -- he'll have plenty of time to do so. Let him rot. (In fact, didn't he actually get 30-60 years? It's only after thirty that he'll be eligible for parole. And I hope they say, screw you.)
     
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  3. Aytee-Aytee

    Aytee-Aytee Jedi Master star 5

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    So are we going to start a "Sandusky Deadpool" and bandy about predicting how long he's going to last in prison before getting shanked?
     
  4. Guinastasia

    Guinastasia Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    I heard he refused being in protective custody -- most child molestors are kept in a special unit. Dumbass. (Not that I care, I'm just sayin')
     
  5. Juliet316

    Juliet316 Chosen One star 10

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    All of this in a nutshell.
     
  6. A Chorus of Disapproval

    A Chorus of Disapproval New Films Malleus Maleficarum star 8 Staff Member Manager

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    Well, just so long as my obvious facetiousness was apparent. I agree with your nutshell.
     
  7. Arawn_Fenn

    Arawn_Fenn Force Ghost star 7

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    Or he thinks he's not responsible because in his mind "the other guy" took over and did it, like a split personality or something. "It's not my fault, it was The Zodiac." Which is the kind of thing you sometimes hear from people who have no concept of self-control.
     
  8. Juliet316

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  9. Alpha-Red

    Alpha-Red Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    Well if he can't stop himself from harming others, that's all the more reason to have him locked up, isn't it?
     
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  10. yankee8255

    yankee8255 Jedi Grand Master star 6

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  11. Juliet316

    Juliet316 Chosen One star 10

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    Given that they got hit with more charges after Spanier got charged, it's probably delayed for a bit longer.
     
  12. Juliet316

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  13. George Roper

    George Roper Jedi Knight star 4

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    Lethal injection of steroids?
     
  14. Juliet316

    Juliet316 Chosen One star 10

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    In terms of the NCAA the Death Penalty is the complete cessation of a school's athletic program for at least one year. It's only been handed down once.
     
  15. DarthIntegral

    DarthIntegral VIP star 8 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    From a legal standpoint, the case probably has a lot of merit.

    Going by what is right and wrong, moral and immoral, and those types of things - yes, Penn State earned the sanctions they got.

    However, from a legal standpoint and what the NCAA Can/Cannot do ... I'm not sure.
     
  16. beezel26

    beezel26 Jedi Master star 7

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    The NCAA isnt a governmental organization. Therefore not subject to federal or state guidelines.
     
  17. DarthIntegral

    DarthIntegral VIP star 8 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    They are subject to laws though. And the lawsuit, perhaps correctly, alleges that the NCAA is in violation of Federal Antitrust laws. Which the NCAA has been found guilty of in the past.
     
  18. LloydChristmas

    LloydChristmas Jedi Master star 4

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    I love how it's the governor who is spending time/money doing this.

    The same one who as attorney general, ya know, failed to keep kids safe from Sandusky.
     
  19. Obi-Zahn Kenobi

    Obi-Zahn Kenobi Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    I interact with a lot of priests who've dealt far too much with abusive priests and other convicted sex offenders. I also interact with psychiatrists who deal in their treatment. I've also dated girls whose fathers (both biological and adoptive) were sexually abusive. It's something that I'm far too familiar with. That said, one of the nearly universal motifs is that the offenders have a very strong victim mentality - they blame it on anyone but themselves. I've known reformed pedophiles, and those who actually changed as a result of their punishment and correction did so because they blamed themselves for their actions, and not others. Someone like Sandusky is probably almost guaranteed to reoffend if he ever has the chance.
     
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  20. Juliet316

    Juliet316 Chosen One star 10

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    Which given the sentence and his age, it's likely he'll never get that chance. Good.
     
  21. Arawn_Fenn

    Arawn_Fenn Force Ghost star 7

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    The crimes in question were committed by a tiny handful of people at most, and the sexual crimes were committed by all of one person. Thus, the vast majority of the Penn State community, who had no complicity in the illegal acts whatsoever, "earned" nothing. It may be popular in certain circles to punish the innocent for the crimes of the guilty, but that doesn't make it right or moral to do so. It is the exact opposite.
     
  22. Darth McClain

    Darth McClain Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I've updated the title to reflect current discussion.

    There was some speculation that part of Corbett's reasoning was to keep the money in the Commonwealth. I'm not sure if that's been substantiated, or not, though.
     
  23. Guinastasia

    Guinastasia Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    Corbett is an ass. As if he couldn't eff things up anymore in this state.

    Bingo.
     
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  24. Jabba-wocky

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    That's why the vast majority of the community didn't get any punishment. The institution called Penn State University did, because it was the organization that did something wrong. Where is the problem?
     
  25. Arawn_Fenn

    Arawn_Fenn Force Ghost star 7

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    "The organization" comprises many more people than the five or so individuals who were at fault. To say that "the organization" did something wrong blames everyone else for the wrongdoing of a small handful of people.

    Corporations are not people, my friend.