Academy Awards Nomination and Reaction

I was surprised....well not really since it's the academy awards....that ep2 wasn't nominated for a couple more. It should have at the least been nominated for sound as well. I mean come on!!! Spiderman was nominated for sound...are you kidding? what sound was cool in spiderman? Ep2 has some of the most amazing sound of any movie. Though I guess I should be used to the academy awards nominating crappy movies.

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YJ edit 2: I think we're done discussing thie Academy Awards here.

 

Yeah, that was a bit strange. Of course Spider-Man also beat out Minority Report in the VFX category, so I guess it shouldn't surprise me.

 

yeah the academy awards is such a sham...Chicago is up for everything...horrid movie.

 

Spiderman... *sigh* You have got to be kidding me...

 

Actually I liked Chicago, but my big oscar hopeful this year is that Bowling for columbine ins bet documentary, as far as I'm concerned it should win best picture.


As for the visual FX this is how I feel, personally I'm glad spideramn beat minority report, part of me thinks Blade2 should have been nominated instead of aptc, only because it had some new techniques, where as aotc really just took the inovations of TPm and followed through with them 100 fold, and to great affect.

I definitly think TPM should of beat the matrix back in 1999, but I think in this case I like the TTT FX more then the ones in AOTC, they were jsut a bit more seemless and Gollum was really well done, plus I like that part with the horses at the end.

But AOTC most definitly has great FX, and I do think TPM got robbed.

 

Lord of the Rings got the oscar last year. So they should give it to AOTC this year. Then next year they can give it to ROTK or one of the Matrix films if they want too.

Hey which Matrix film will recive the nomination? They can't nominate both can they? They might cancel each other out. If they nominate both they will just give it to ROTK.

AOTC should have been nominated for

Sound
Sound Effects Editing
Costume
Art Direction
Make-up
Score
Set Design

Plus a special oscar for Digital Yoda.

 

Spiderman... *sigh* You have got to be kidding me...

And yet, it will probably win (unless the Academy has been hoodwinked by two ugly towers a bunch of ridiculous trees).

AOTC certainly deserved a nomination. And I'm actually surprised that it got one, considering what happened in 2000.

-ZM

 

TTT will beat spiderman


I'm really confused about the make-up noms, where is TTT, and AOTC and blade2??

perhaps sequels are not eligble, I know as of next year sequels will not be eligible for best musical score.

 

TTT will beat spiderman

If that happens, then the Academy is truly dead.

Seriously, though . . I think Spider-Man will take the FX statue home. Not because it deserves it, but because it was the highest grossing film of the year, and Hollywood loves to reward its champions. Besides, LOTR already took home a little guy for FX last year. Hollywood also likes to spread the wealth around.

-ZM

 

I'm really confused about the make-up noms, where is TTT, and AOTC and blade2??

The Make-up category (like the Sound and Visual Effects categories) is done by committee. Each film submits competition tapes for the first round, and the committe votes on a scale of 1-10. To go on to the next round, the film must get an average of 8. There's then another round, which must be rounded down to 3 nominees, or less. For some reason that I do not understand, they don't allow more than 3 nominees for those three categories.

For T2T, the film was deemed inelligible for Make-Up and Score because it was judged that it was the same body of work as the previous year.

 

You all have to agree that AOTC should have been nominated for sound...right??!?!?! Ben Burt (sp?) is one of the best guys in the sound business, and he did an amazing job on ep2.

Rebel that's your opinion on TTT being more seemless. In my opinion AOTC looked much better in the VFX area. It was much more seemless and Yoda blew gollum away. I cringed during several scenes with gollum becuase they looked so fake. DOn't get me wrong the actor did amazing for gollum, but the effects just weren't on par with AOTC IMHO.

 

I hope Spider-man does not win the Oscar. If AOTC loses I whould rather it lose to TTT which had good effects. Not as good as AOTC or but better then Spider-man.

 

"For T2T, the film was deemed inelligible for Make-Up and Score because it was judged that it was the same body of work as the previous year."

so did that happen with AOTC as well? I can kind of see the arguement with TTT, but with AOTC it makes no sense, though I guess there was no real new make up in AOTC that wasn't in TPM.

But still Blade 2 got completley shafted for make up.

What did Frida have? They gave salma hayek a uni-brow. And the time machine had terrible make up.

"You all have to agree that AOTC should have been nominated for sound...right??!?!?! Ben Burt (sp?) is one of the best guys in the sound business, and he did an amazing job on ep2."

I don't thinkt he sound was as impressive as its been in previous outings.

"Rebel that's your opinion on TTT being more seemless."

Obviously

But on Oscar night we'll find out if hte academy agrees.

Actually I have a bit of inside info on this one as I recently met Colin Chilvers the oscar winnign FX artist who made Superman fly, he let me hold his oscar and he was saying how he is on the oscar FX commity and he helped pick the nominees, he couldn't stop talking about how wowed he was by TTT, so I'd say its not unlikely it will win.

I think it should, it had a lot of great FX and only one truly awful one, the wargs.

AOTC also had several great FX, but it also had some very medicore ones, and some that were quite poor.

 

Yeah I agree rebel AOTC shoulda been nominated for make up. Also shoulda been nominated for costume, but the academy only puts sci-fi movies in if they have to. They tend to shun star wars.

I agree gobi-1. If AOTC is gonna lose I'd rather it lose to TTT not spiderman.

 

somebody asked whether next year both Matrix sequels could be nominated and the answer is "yes", even though the people waorking on both films are the same. Academy rules state that in all but 5 categories is is the FILM that is nominated (not the people behind it) while in 5 categories (the 4 acting categories plus Best Director) is is the PERSON who's nominated. That's why for example two actors from the same film can be nominated in the same category but no person can be nominated more than once in one category. In all other areas it's the film that gets nominated which means that the same person could be nominated more than once ina year. There was actually one year in the Eighties where Richard Edlund was a nominee for all 3 nominated Effects films so he knew beforehand that he was going to win.
So yes, Matrix 2 and 3 can both be nominated but I suspect that only one will eventually make it due to split votes

 

Yeah, they both can technically be nominated but I seriously doubt the Academy will do so. They'll just pick one.

I think TTT had better FX work than Spidey, myself.

 

There's no doubt that TTT has better VFX than spiderman, but it remains to be debated that TTT has better VFX than AOTC. IMHO AOTC blows TTT out of the water in the VFX departmen.

 

I hope Aotc gets the Oscar. It's more than deserving.

 

Actually, wouldn't AOTC be better served by NOT winning or even being nominated? I don't know about any of you...but I don't put very much stock in "popularity contest" award shows.

 

that's a very good point devilanse.

 

Maybe it's just the fact that science ficton movies aren't as popular as they used to be. When the the last time that a Star Wars movie did really well at the Academy awards?

 

ANH was up nominated for best picture and a lot of other stuff, I think ESB and ROTJ were nominated and won for technical stuff, and about 10 years ago GL recieved a life time achievement award for his considerable contributions to the motion picture industry and art, they had people on the space shuttle present the award live via satelite while they floated around in zero gravitiy.

It was pretty cool.

 

ANH was nominated for 10 oscars winning 6 of them, plus a special achievment award for Ben Burtt.

ESB was nominated for 3 and won 2 of them, plus a special achievment award for the visual effects

ROTJ was nominated for 4, won none. However, it again recieved a special achievment award for the visual effects.

There was no visual effects oscar at the time.

 

The academy is a load of bull. for one, Spiderman didn't deserve crap. I didn't really care for the movie. It messed up the entire comic storyline. (though M.J. was hot)

I almost fell out when i saw that ep II wasn't in that much. I mean, come on! It's apart of the best set of movies in the world!

 

"The academy is a load of bull. for one, Spiderman didn't deserve crap. I didn't really care for the movie. It messed up the entire comic storyline. (though M.J. was hot)"

But its not the comic, its a movie, new continuity, same is true of all comic book movies. I liked it, I know many of you didn't but I got what I wanted from a spiderman movie, though greengoblins non moving mask sucked and could've been much better. Still I think the FX nomination is deserved, it was cool to see spidey swing around the city, a big thrill on the big screen.

"I almost fell out when i saw that ep II wasn't in that much. I mean, come on! It's apart of the best set of movies in the world!"

But is the OScars are BS then what does it matter?