Lit ACKBAR IS BACK - The Lit Forum Social Thread, v2.0

Discussion in 'Literature' started by Master_Keralys, Jan 1, 2009.

  1. anakinfansince1983 Chosen One

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    Thanks for making me feel old, Zeta. :p

    I got sort of lost sorting through all the Star Trek available on Netflix so I'm a long way from being interested in the "soft reboot." I need to figure out what the hell they're rebooting first.
  2. Gorefiend Chosen One

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    The Trailer somehow strikes me as utterly generic; it could literally be to any high budget Sci-Fi Action flick.
  3. The Loyal Imperial Manager Emeritus

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  4. Gorefiend Chosen One

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    A little, as it doesn’t need to be Star Trek for that.
  5. instantdeath Force Ghost

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    I'm about Zeta's age, I guess, but up until now have only seen one Star Trek episode and none of the movies. I think it was the pilot. Something about a shape shifter. One of these days...
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  6. GrandAdmiralJello Community and Lit moderator person

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    Advice #1: Eating your prisoners of war may be a war crime. There is no necessity defense.
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  7. CooperTFN TFN EU Staff Emeritus

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    Does that apply to Mon Cals?
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  8. AdmiralNick22 Fleet Admiral of Literature

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    [face_shame_on_you]

    Eating Mon Cals is immoral. When I eat fried Calamari in Monterey, I get very emotional.

    Crap, who am I kidding? I love to eat that stuff! [face_devil]

    --Adm. Nick
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  9. Gorefiend Chosen One

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    What if you drink them? [face_plain]

    [IMG]
  10. krtmd Jedi Grand Master

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    Well, it IS delicious.
  11. GrandAdmiralJello Community and Lit moderator person

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    ...the really funny part about that is that as a vegetarian, I would NEVER eat calamari.


    Let's all sit and think about that.
  12. RC-1991 Force Ghost

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    I've only ever seen the 2009 movie.
  13. instantdeath Force Ghost

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    Can I eat them on the basis that they taste good?
  14. GrandAdmiralJello Community and Lit moderator person

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    What?

    What?


    Get out.

    Now.


    Go see Star Trek II-VI. I will make you fall asleep, and V will probably confuse you, but the rest of them are excellent. Particularly IV.


    Go. Now. Don't let me see you until you have.
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  15. Barriss_Coffee Chosen One

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    I've watched the OS enough to quote half the episodes, but alas, I've never had time to watch the later series. Supposedly some of them are better.... I gotta get on that task someday.

    I've seen the old movies with Shatner et al, but none of the Picard or later ones. I thought the 2009 movie took itself more seriously than the older movies (more on that in a sec), but it definitely had the spirit of the OS. Half (er, most?) of the OS episodes were about Kirk being placed in an impossible situation and having to choose between the undesirable choices offered to him, and in the end he would come up with some clever third alternative of his own design. He was never so much the "tough-guy" hero as the "clever/trickster" hero (e.g. Odysseus), and the 2009 movie got that down pretty well.

    and re: the older movies with the old actors -- I don't think they took themselves as seriously, but not necessarily in a bad way. If we want to know what the Star Wars ST is going to be like, it will probably parallel these. You've got a bunch of old actors getting together and reprising roles that have become entertainment icons. The 1980s-Trek films were half banter between the Enterprise crew, and it was a lot more casual than what was in the 1960s show. I think we'll probably see the same for the ST.
  16. RC-1991 Force Ghost

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    I'll probably end up watching them some time, but not in the next month or so. I haven't even had the time/motivation to watch the newest Mad Men yet.

    Last night I considered it an accomplishment to churn out 2 pages of analysis of the secondary literature on the Zapotecs of Monte Alban.
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  17. GrandAdmiralJello Community and Lit moderator person

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    By far the best part of the old Trek films was that the old cast were just out there having fun, and basically acting like they should be -- old friends (IU, at least) getting back together for some fun romps. The uniforms were a lot cooler too -- they had all those shiny metal things on the rank insignia. Looks more 18th century. :p Instead of, er,, 23rd? 24th? I don't know Trek super well, despite having watched TNG, DS9, and Voyager as a kid (never TOS though, alas). The old Trek films though, are my favorite of the lot.

    bah, I wrote 9 and that's with a busted hand and after spending the day hanging out and having fun. :p Now I have 300 words left of the last paper of my academic career... so close. So CLOSE. I'm phoning it in so hard, though, it's terrible. I could easily double the length I have now including all the dueling sources that I could differentiate between and sort out but I'm over it. I know too much about this subject for my own good :p


    As for your paper, I still think you should write about the colli Albani instead. Surely your Mesoamerican prof will understand should you choose to write about the far superior Roman culture. (actually, professors get aneurisms these days if you describe cultures as inferior and superior, don't they? Bah! The good old days are long gone...)
  18. RC-1991 Force Ghost

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    Yeah, I think the whole "inferior/superior culture" ideal went out of style back in the mid-20th century :p

    I actually considered doing it on the Etruscans, but they can't be considered a primary state, whereas the Zapotecs can potentially make that claim.
  19. instantdeath Force Ghost

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    I'll most likely join the sad ranks of people who have only seen the Abrams Trek movies soon, as I'll probably end up seeing Into Darkness in theaters, and at least want to be familiar with the first one beforehand. But I will watch the series, hopefully soon. I just won't pay for those ridiculously overpriced blu ray collections.
  20. GrandAdmiralJello Community and Lit moderator person

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    :( But but you can make judgments based on material evidence and literary attainment and all the pretties. Think of all the pretties! I'd like to see some Visigoths make veristic sculptures out of Parian marble! I'd like to see them work porphyry!

    I don't know what primary state means. Educate me. :p
  21. Rilwen_Shadowflame Force Ghost

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    ...BRB, hiding the evidence.:p
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  22. instantdeath Force Ghost

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    Assuming you're eating people the right way, there shouldn't be any evidence to start with ;)
  23. RC-1991 Force Ghost

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    Pretty much primary states are states that developed without any major contact with/influence by other states. The generally accepted primary states are Egypt after the unification of the two kingdoms (although some have argued that Upper Egypt alone constituted a state, IIRC); Mesopotamia starting with Uruk; the Harappan culture in the Indus Valley; the Shang Dynasty in China; the Moche, Tiwanaku, and Wari cultures in the Andes; and Monte Alban in Mesoamerica. Pretty much nothing in Italy can possibly count; any Italian state draws at least slightly on Bronze Age Aegean cultures, which in turn drew a lot on the Near East, which in turn was influenced by Mesopotamia.

    I'm sure Coffee can correct any errors I made, and more ably explain just what a state entails.
  24. GrandAdmiralJello Community and Lit moderator person

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    .......yeah so the biggest Supreme Court decision I can think of in my lifetime just got handed down this morning. It's a case I've written a few papers on, and seen from the highest levels of both the appellants, the petitioners, and hell, even within the halls of the U.S. government. And it basically erases a quarter century of international human rights law. And it's a 9-0 opinion.

    http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/12pdf/10-1491_8n59.pdf

    ....damn.
  25. Todd the Jedi Mod and Sitcom Dad of SWTV

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    Star Wars fans watching Star Trek!? Blasphemy!

    :p

    Though, one of my nerdier professors often has a joke about that. He'll do the Vulcan salute and say May the Force be with you. Immediately afterwards he'll point out that there are three types of people in the room. The first group have no idea what he's doing, the second do know what he's doing and laugh a bit, while the third group will be compelled to stand up and proclaim "I must correct hiiiimmmm!!". His delivery on the third one is hilarious, really.