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Discussion Adam Driver (Kylo Ren) in Episode IX

Discussion in 'Star Wars: Episode IX - Spoilers Allowed' started by Ben-Solo, Dec 12, 2017.

  1. Ben-Solo

    Ben-Solo Jedi Master star 4

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    So where does his character arc go from here, what twists could still be left for his journey; the possibilites are endless at this point. Is Ben Solo the last of the .....
     
  2. DANNASUK

    DANNASUK Force Ghost star 7

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    Either gets redeemed, establishes a new Order with Rey and all rainbows.

    Or.

    Rey kills him and ends the Skywalker bloodline.
     
  3. Darth Smurf

    Darth Smurf Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I hope he gets snoked.
     
  4. B99

    B99 Force Ghost star 6

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    Wonder if Kylo will have a happy ending??
     
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  5. Ben-Solo

    Ben-Solo Jedi Master star 4

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    I guess that will be up to how the TPTB want to end the trilogy, do they want to eliminate the Skywalker name or do they want to leave it open ended where if Adam wants to reprise his role as Ben Solo then the opportunity will exist. At this point I can see him surviving and allow Disney to decide in the future.
     
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  6. StarKiller81

    StarKiller81 Jedi Knight star 3

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    I feel like it won’t be happy but that perhaps he survives and goes into some sort of exile. What if he ends up on Ahch-To? I hope they leave open the chance he could return if they do 10-12.
     
  7. All_Powerful_Jedi

    All_Powerful_Jedi Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Kylo now has everything he wants except Rey, and everything Luke said about him will be validated. The First Order will resent him as leader.

    He will want out, but Rey won't take him. At least, in the first half of the movie. Rey will be driven by revenge. Both will tease turning, then JJ Abrams will flip a coin.
     
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  8. Ben-Solo

    Ben-Solo Jedi Master star 4

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    Has everything, but nothing. Kylo still needs to realize this destiny whatever that is and remember where he came from as Lor San Tekka so beautifully said in TFA. With the choices made in TLJ it is now up to Ben to decide which legacy to choose regardless of his fate, his decision will help decide the fate of the galaxy as a whole. As he is THE SKYWALKER.
     
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  9. FrolickingFizzgig

    FrolickingFizzgig Jedi Grand Master star 4

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  10. Darkspellmaster

    Darkspellmaster Jedi Master star 4

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    As I've said before and I'll say again, LF has no plans on killing off the Skywalker line. It's too important to the story. Characters from the Skywalker line can go, but you can't get rid of the line itself. This means that we're going to see probably Ben coming back. If it's Adam or not, who knows, but probably it will be. Given what's been talked about, I can see the redeemed angle as they seem to be basing him on several characters from the EU.

    1. Kyp Durron, a very powerful Jedi who went to the Dark side, did a LOT of bad things in the fit of anger and having family issues and anger at the Empire, and then was later redeemed by his own actions during an imposed punishment by Luke and the other Jedi. He eventually became a Master, but known kind of as the "bad boy" of the Jedi, to the point where he willingly used others to get done what he felt he needed to. But he had a good heart and cared for his friends.

    2. Jacen Solo, again powerful Jedi, son of Leia and Han, went to the Dark side but came back because of the love of his sister. However she ultimately had to kill him and he does all this to "protect his loved ones" and also to stop a war from happening. Ben Solo mirrors him almost beat per beat. Jacen also seems to come back to the light upon his death.

    3. Revan, eventually married a Jedi Bastila and had a family with her. Reven was redeemed and later fought with the Eternal Emperor.

    I'm pretty sure there are some other characters there too. So I don't see them getting rid of him or the Skywalker line. As I've said before the Potter family is connected to the world of Harry Potter, the Skywalker family is connected to the Star Wars line.
     
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  11. Chewies_bandolier

    Chewies_bandolier Force Ghost star 4

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    Taking bets now that JJ will make him put his helmet back on again ..
     
  12. Ben-Solo

    Ben-Solo Jedi Master star 4

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    No I doubt we see him with a helmet anymore, seems Rian in VIII went to the character's humanity and the conflict within him. Building off that foundation putting the mask on would be totally against Ben Solo's character development and where it is today.
     
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  13. Aetius888

    Aetius888 Jedi Master star 2

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    My four theories:

    1) Kylo goes Caligula.
    2) Kylo turns out to be an excellent, conscientious leader and starts to make amends, ala Godfather III.
    3) Kylo gets deposed and fights for survival.
    4) Kylo disappears, like Luke in TFA.
     
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  14. RandomGreyJ

    RandomGreyJ Jedi Master star 4

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    I want Kylo to eventually kill Hux like Vader's multiple examples of killing Imperial Officers in the OT. Either Force Choke or Lightsaber. I don't care.
     
  15. elbertino

    elbertino Jedi Master star 3

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    No.

    There is another.
     
  16. Mostly Handless

    Mostly Handless Jedi Master star 4

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    (Disclaimer: my opinopn on this may well change after watching TLJ this evening)

    That said, it's sounds to me as if LFL has probably played all their Kylo 'redemption cards'. I still don't think a Kylo redemption would be completely impossible from here. But honestly unless JJ has the cinematic equivalent of an Idiots Array lined up for IX, I can't see how he'd go there from refusing Rey's offer (made in good faith), and taking over the First Order in VIII.
     
  17. Ben-Solo

    Ben-Solo Jedi Master star 4

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    I will also judge things for myself but just because a character refuses an offer (if that actually occurs, in a correct context of the narrative) doesn't mean that it cannot still occur. The premise that Rey would even consider that action towards Ben Solo means she knows and now he knows that there's others who are trying to help him; also did anyone really think he would be redeemed in this film (VIII) because if anything I proposed the groundwork needed to be laided in front of the audience first then it could take place. It sounds like that is the case and as such it appears redemption in some form is still possible (and if we consider he's the last Skywalker) it may be a consideration used when determining that outcome, especially if they make more saga films.

    Futhermore Rian or JJ are not idiots. Why are we taking swipes at directors for their creative vision when Disney obviously approves of there creative vision.
     
  18. Yora

    Yora Jedi Knight star 1

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    We will certainly realize how an awful leader, Kylo Ren is. Most of his character is based and how unpredictable and tempestuous he is. The battle of Crait showed us how irrational he can be. Because of his emotions, he's constantly making bad decisions. The only thing in his favor is how weak the resistance is. Because of that, I predict a schism in The First Order with the opposite faction leaded by a new character (Not Hux, I can't take him seriously after TLJ).
    Before Carrie death, I always thought that Kylo will be redeemed thanks to his mother but after TLJ and Leia future death, I'm not so sure. Still, I hope Kylo will survives the trilogy and realizes his mistake. Maybe, jailed for the rest of his life could the best ending for him.
     
  19. Ben-Solo

    Ben-Solo Jedi Master star 4

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    I feel Ben Solo is even more at a crossroads than ever; the power he wanted he has, the apprentice he wanted he doesn't. He's gained everything he wanted except Rey as an apprentice, yet lost everything. It will be interesting to see how JJ handles Ben Solo moving forward because we have more questions now than before TLJ.
     
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  20. Charlemagne Thax

    Charlemagne Thax Jedi Youngling

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    I'm calling it now. Snoke secretly comes back in a new body and takes it upon himself to wear his old Kylo Ren uniform thereby usurping the role back from Ben Solo (his plan all along I guess) before the start of IX. Ben will have ended up fleeing for his life and go off on a personal journey with ghost Luke harassing him along the way. This will be set up as a mid film plot twist since Kylo Ren will be masked throughout the beginning of IX.
     
  21. xaxiomatic

    xaxiomatic Jedi Knight star 1

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    I am starting to root for the guy. He is putting in serious effort and elbow grease into being an *******. It is not a good plan but at least it is a plan and he is working hard towards bettering himself at what he chooses to be.
     
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  22. Slowpokeking

    Slowpokeking Jedi Master star 5

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    Not pleased at all, his acting sucks compare to Rey, and he was going to be the antagonist? really?
     
  23. Jedi Master Scorpio

    Jedi Master Scorpio Jedi Master star 4

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    Really? I thought Adam Driver showed some major acting chops in TLJ. I have a whole new appreciation for Kylo being the villain now.
     
  24. RKR

    RKR Jedi Knight star 1

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    Lol, what? Driver's acting was fantastic in TLJ
     
  25. MichaelSkellig

    MichaelSkellig Jedi Knight star 2

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    Adam Driver was mesmeric in TLJ. He acted the pants of every other cast member.