Admiral Yularen will get "promoted" to colonel??

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  1. Hoggsquattle Force Ghost

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    Hi,
    The other day I saw for the first that Hasbro had released an action figure set of the Death Star briefing room scene in EPISODE IV and I saw a "Colonel Wullf Yularen" named in the set.
    According to the Wookiepedia (Yularen is not mention in the official sites' Databank) that this is indeed Admiral Yularen of THE CLONE WARS. It's the officer in the white uniform.

    The Wookiepedia says that in the commentary for THE CLONE WARS MOVIE, "it was explained by the creators that Yularen was portrayed as an admiral as a means of showing him rising through the ranks to Grand Admiral?which, the creators believed, was his rank in Episode IV given the fact that the unnamed actor who portrayed Yularen wore a white uniform similar to that of the Grand Admirals." - although I never knew his name I believed this also.

    Apparently details of Yularen's post?Clone Wars career appear in The Force Unleashed Campaign Guide. Can anybody tell how Yularen ends up with the lower rank of colonel? Does he resign after THE CLONE WARS? Why does he not rise higher in the ranks?

    No CLONE WARS episode spoilers please.

    Cheers.
  2. Asharak Force Ghost

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    People can say what they want, but in my version of canon our boy Wulf definitely became a Grand Admiral.
  3. GGrievous Chosen One

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    Once the Republic became the Empire, Yularen soon joined the "Imperial Security Bureau," mainly the Empire's security, and he served as a colonel. He eventually served on the Death Star in 0 BBY, and died instantly when the battle station exploded over Yavin 4. True stuff. :p
  4. star-wars-insider-50 Jedi Knight

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    Not if anything to say about it, Filoni has
  5. GGrievous Chosen One

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    It's not his decision to retcon that, however. Let me remind us that this is GL's creation, not Filoni's.
  6. Asharak Force Ghost

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    We were never given any evidence that Yularen was on the Death Star when it blew up. He could have left on one of the Star Destroyers that orbited the station at the beginning of the movie.
  7. GGrievous Chosen One

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    The SWE, and the CSWE says he dies on the Death Star.
  8. Gry Sarth Ex 2x Banhammer Wielding Besalisk Mod

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    Yes, but it most likely wasn't GL who wrote that little tidbit about Yularen's demise. It's probably the work of some EU author or whatnot. So if Filoni decides to establish something different, it's unlikely that GL would have anything against it.
  9. Asharak Force Ghost

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    "The SWE, and the CSWE says he dies on the Death Star."

    Can you translate for the humble grasshopper?
  10. Ludo_Kressh Jedi Grand Master

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    I imagine it's Star Wars Encyclopedia and the Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia:confused:
  11. Asharak Force Ghost

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    Thanks for the answer.

    If that?s the only place its written, then I wouldn?t really say its written in stone.
  12. GGrievous Chosen One

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    Precisely. While Steven Sansweet wrote the original SWE and the CSWE, Pablo Hidalgo, Bob Vitas, Daniel Wallace, Mary Franklin, Josh Kushins, Chris Cassidy wrote for the CSWE.
  13. The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth

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    I think I recall Lucas saying somewhere that, essentially, the worst of the worst in terms of Imperial officers and officials were killed on the first Death Star, as one way to justify the notion of the end of the Empire after Palpatine is gone and have a "happy ending" despite the "Robot Chicken" logical arguments.

    And, really- this is Clone Wars, how is Filoni going to retcon the end of ANH with TCW? Have Yularen say "I'll always evacuate a battlestation that's come under enemy attack!"? ;)

    [image=http://www.theforce.net/swtc/Pix/cards/ccg/yularen.jpg]

    Anyways, to answer the question of the thread's title- the change in rank reflects his change in careers. He went from a naval Admiral to a Colonel in what was essentially a CIA/KGB/Fox News/Gestapo military propaganda-intelligence hybrid agency.
  14. Hoggsquattle Force Ghost

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    Guys, everybody but The2ndQuest, missed the point of my post. The issue isn't about retconning or who survived what.

    The2ndQuest, do you mean that Yularen was demoted as such , but that the rank of colonel in the Intelligence Service is the equivalent of Admiral?
  15. Gry Sarth Ex 2x Banhammer Wielding Besalisk Mod

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    Not really equivalent, careers in the Navy and the ISB don't progress the same way. He abandoned his rank as a Navy Commander to join the ISB, wher he aquired a different, independent rank. It wasn't a demotion nor a promotion, just a change to a different branch.
  16. The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth

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    Yeah- though not the exact scenario, it's like a a naval Admiral changing to the army. He wouldn't have an Admiral rank anymore.
  17. Hoggsquattle Force Ghost

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    This leads me to another question.

    are the Imperial/Old Republic/New Republic military forces an "all in one"? what I mean is that there does not seem to be an Infantry, Airforce and Navy as such in the movies and CLONE WARS series. yes, there are pilots, troopers and "sailors" but they all seem to be commanded as one "force" rather than different "branches".

    am I correct?
  18. fanboyskywalker Jedi Master

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    The description on the card doesn't sound like the kind and lovable Yularen from TCW.
  19. The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth

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    Not entirely- the Republic seems more generalized since they rely on clones for much of their numbers. But there are distinctions with Admirals and clone naval officers in the fleets, Jedi Generals and clone troopers/commanders running ground and artillery, etc. You also have Judicial fleet forces (the blue uniform Republic officers like the Radiant VII's pilots).

    The Empire is more organized into separate branches, since they use non-clones on the whole for things even though you see the stromtroopers used more in the films and EU.

    You have the Imperial Army, which commands walkers, repulsor craft and uses Army troopers (the ones dressed like Veers).

    The Navy runs ship and fleet operations and uses Navy troopers (the "Death Star Troopers") as well as Imperial gunners ("Death Star Gunners").

    And then there was the Stormtrooper Corps, which was under the Emperor's command like the Royal Guards.


    He's got 22 years to change his attitude. Beisdes, just because he's essentially a high ranking member of the propoganda and loyalty police doesn't mean he can't have a semi-pleasant attitude and demeanor. Makes him seem unassuming and probably better at the job.

    You can also look at his newsreel narrations (assuming it's him) as hints towards his future post-war career choices ;)
  20. Gry Sarth Ex 2x Banhammer Wielding Besalisk Mod

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    Which is why they are gradually changing his character. In season 2 he's been much more critical of the Jedi as well as a bit obnoxious. I guess he's on his way to becoming that sort of typical Imperial Officer.

    Well, I don't know about the "Grand Army of the Republic", but as far as the EU goes, the Empire, Rebellion and New Republic had different branches within its military forces. Army, Navy, Starfighter Corps, all that. Maybe because the Clone Army came "already assembled in the box" they don't have such distinctions. They are all clones, trained and geared in Kamino, so it doesn't make much sense to divide them into branches.
  21. Hoggsquattle Force Ghost

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    But Jedi command their fleets as well as ground troops. Yularen seems to be the only "human" in the Grand Army - which by the way covers space and ground operations - as there has never been mention of a "navy".

    but stormtroopers are not just "ground troops". they are all over the Death Star and Star Destroyers.

    In all three military forces there are different "sections" - starfighters, battleships, ground troops - but all under one "organization". even the uniforms - Veers is wearing the same outfit as Ozzel and Piett.



    exactly - actually I detected a good deal of hostility towards Anakin in CARGO OF DOOM

    Yes, were the stormtroopers and their generals actually part of the Imperial fleet - the movies seem to imply that the "army" and "navy" were one organization.
  22. Darth_Gamek Jedi Grand Master

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    I have a theory:

    Yularen was sick of Anakin's recklessness, right? He didn't really respect his judgements or whatever, so when Anakin became Darth Vader, he demoted Yularen to colonel for that.
  23. DanikKreldin Jedi Grand Master

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    When was it ever implied that the Army and Navy were the same organization? I mean, it's quite clearly established in "A New Hope" that they were separate - recall the scene in the conference room, with the different chains of command arguing back and forth. "Dangerous to -your- Starfleet, commander!" and so forth. There is very clearly an Imperial Army, an Imperial Navy (or Imperial Starfleet) and the other branches, like the Stormtrooper Corps, ISB, Intelligence, etc. That is why you have different ranks - an Admiral for the Navy (Admiral Piett), General for the Army (Veers), etc. Just because they all happen to be stationed aboard a Star Destroyer does not imply they are all part of the same branch. How do you expect Imperial soldiers in the Army to get transported around the galaxy to invade planets if not aboard the fleet's ships?

    Plus, every single source outside the movies - all the sourcebooks, essential guides, encyclopedias, books, games, etc - all note that the Army, Navy, STs, etc are separate entities under the Imperial Military.
  24. The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth

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    The Stormtroopers, like the clones, were multipurpose and essentially elite special forces compared to the rank and file non-stormies. That's why you see them everywhere and why you see them so often since they're likely to be on the front lines.

    Take Hoth as an example- you have the Navy (Veers, Lennox, Needa) doing blockade operations, the army (Veers, AT-AT drivers, etc) running the artillery to drop the shield and the Stormtrooper Corps leading the assault into the base with Vader.

    When I spoke of "dressed like Veers", I meant his armored combat uniform he wears while inside Blizzard 1 and leading the walker attack. You see non-armored variants of that same uniform with the AT-ST drivers in ROTJ.

    [image=http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/thumb/f/f0/Maximilian_Veers_NEGTC.jpg/297px-Maximilian_Veers_NEGTC.jpg]
  25. Andersonian Jedi Knight

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    And the lovable Commander Cody doesn't seem like the kind of guy who would try to shoot Obi Wan in the back with a cannon.
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