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Lit Aftermath: Empire's End (book 3) by Chuck Wendig

Discussion in 'Literature' started by Jedi Ben, Jan 1, 2017.

  1. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    Surely Mothra would be the more appropriate one to photoshop?
     
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  2. bdh1138

    bdh1138 Jedi Knight star 2

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    "Many Kaiju died to bring us this information"

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    Admittedly not the best job, but I made it a couple years ago and I didn't feel like redoing something this dumb :p
     
  3. vncredleader

    vncredleader Jedi Master star 4

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    Wait you did this before? Let ,me guess, this exact conversation came up when talking to Jello?
     
  4. Ghost

    Ghost Chosen One star 7

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    Ah, but it should be Mothma's face on the Mothman! :p
     
  5. vncredleader

    vncredleader Jedi Master star 4

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    It would be best to put her face on Killer Moth's body. Then again that might be to dignified for her in Jello's eyes.
     
  6. ZY-Fighter

    ZY-Fighter Jedi Padawan star 1

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    I enjoyed the book and will need to re-read it (raced through as I wanted to know what happened) but man oh man was I unsatisfied. I really wish the first one had been tagged "Journey From Return Of The Jedi", the marketing really set up the trilogy as a bridge between trilogies. I expected it to cover more than, what, a year?

    What's up with the Acolytes? How was the First Order formed? What happened to Han and Leia's marriage? What's Luke up to?

    So many questions, such an empty feeling after reading this much-anticipated book. I feel I'll appreciate TLJ even more now.
     
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  7. Ghost

    Ghost Chosen One star 7

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    See: Bloodline. And TFA.
     
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  8. SWpants

    SWpants Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    "Many Mothmans died to bring us this information."
     
  9. Pfluegermeister

    Pfluegermeister Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Break out the Mothma "Typical Jello" meme, kids...
     
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  10. SWpants

    SWpants Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Having a snow day let me listen to a larger chunk today than I normally would have.

    Chapter 12
    • “The Empire is a corrosive force eating at everyone and everything.” – That was one of the best things I have seen from Wendig. What an apt description.
    Chapter 13
    • Jas is awesome. I really liked the fight between her and Swift.
    • I don’t know Embo, but that scene really helped me to understand just how difficult voice actors have it! If Marc Thompson didn’t know all the characters who have already been verbalized, he would have to research their voices and tones; their quirks and articulations. Even though I don’t know Embo, I know Thompson has done a fantastic job.
    • Swift isn’t bringing the history in; Wendig is ;)

    Interlude: Tatooine

    • Wow. That was actually interesting. When I get access to the book, I’m going to reread that, because [for once] I enjoyed that interlude quite a bit. I actually wouldn’t mind a short story about what was going on, on Tatooine, during this time. Or a series of short stories: Tales from Tatooine!
    • @GrandAdmiralJello I agree - I hate sand!
     
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  11. vncredleader

    vncredleader Jedi Master star 4

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    Roger that, Mothma meme en route
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  12. SWpants

    SWpants Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Chapter 14
    • Wait…that really WAS Bones on Jakku? Oh. I feel like the guard’s dismemberment of Bones and reaction overall were too extreme for the given moment.
    • Should’ve known Bones would meld back together.

    Chapter 15
    • I find it interesting that Thompson has made Rax sound a bit like Palpatine. And the written description of Rax is very much like Palps. We can really see that the former Emperor was a great influence on Rax.
    • We most definitely see how, like Palpatine, Rax has long-term goals and is clearly beginning creating troops for a First Order. He even has an aptitude towards influencing children. Granted, he’s always been amiable towards them, even as a child himself, but I still find the parallels interesting. Actually, I like those parallels better than the parallels between TFA and ANH.
    • The scene with the Anchorite was devastating. Not surprised about Rax’s actions, but it’s still very sad.
    • Tashu gives me the creeps.

    Chapter 16
    • Quite interesting to see how Brentin looks for something to fight for while Sloane simply wants revenge. It’s not surprising, but the dynamic between them is something that interests me.
    • When Sloane grabbed Brentin, I was kind of reminded of how Finn grabs Rey in TFA.

    Interlude: Christophis
    • Oh yay, a Church of the Force.
    • I find it strange a droid is considered a pilgrim.
    • Loved hearing an entry from Journal of the Whills.
    • It makes me sad that the only colors of the Kyber crystals are red, green, and blue.
    • It’s great to see names like Galen, Jyn, and even Tarkin.

    Chapter 17

    • Jas, telling Norra that you found Sloane was a bad idea.
    • How does one shrug with their eyes???
     
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  13. Pfluegermeister

    Pfluegermeister Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Okay, after mistakenly posting this in the wrong thread, I'm gonna see if this has any more traction in the RIGHT thread.

    At any rate, from page 274, American hardcover edition:
    Jim Henson's Phasma Babies?

    We have no idea of Phasma's age, but she certainly gives the impression of someone closer to thirty-five than to thirty, so this very well COULD be her. And considering the general rarity of girls in the saga who happen to be tall enough for that tallness to itself be worth mentioning, that too points in Phasma's direction.

    That could imply a LOT about Phasma's background if it turns out to be the case.
     
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  14. robotical712

    robotical712 Jedi Knight star 2

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    Was anyone else puzzled by the book stating the Battle of Jakku lasted 'weeks to months'? I could see ground operations taking that long, but it sounded like the space battle lasted that long. How would that work?


    I saw that too and it's almost certainly a young Phasma.
     
  15. AdmiralNick22

    AdmiralNick22 Fleet Admiral of Literature star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    I think the battle lasting longer is exclusive to the ground portion. Once the ISD blockade is breached and the Ravager lost, the New Republic fleet's superior numbers would overcome the Empire quickly. I suppose it's possible that isolated space engagements happened for a few more days (ships arriving late, suicidal attacks, etc), but it would be mostly over rather quickly.

    The ground battle... that would be a hellish slog for sure.

    --Adm. Nick
     
  16. Maythe14thBeWithYou

    Maythe14thBeWithYou Jedi Knight star 3

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    I started it yesterday and am halfway through chapter 9 and am loving it! I think it'll give us so many answers regarding TFA and almost wish I read faster so I could finish it, not because it's not good I just got to know! lol
     
  17. Pfluegermeister

    Pfluegermeister Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Yeah, don't expect TOO many answers regarding TFA...
     
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  18. Darth_Garak

    Darth_Garak Jedi Master star 4

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    That Mothma meme is just glorious. One of the best things to come out of R1.
     
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  19. Chris_Fives

    Chris_Fives Jedi Knight star 3

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    I feel like up until Episode IX we will be getting only small tidbits.

    Full exploration of that period will come after 2019.
     
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  20. robotical712

    robotical712 Jedi Knight star 2

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    I would think its the ground portion, but the way it was written it sounded like the space battle lasted that long too, but that doesn't seem possible. As you said, once the Imperial defensive position is breached and the Ravager is gone the Republic is free to pick apart the remaining ships at its leisure.

    Actually, I can't see the ground portion lasting all that long either. The Imperial troops would be entirely reliant on existing supplies, there's minimal natural cover and there's no civilian population to blend into.
     
  21. Jedi Ben

    Jedi Ben Chosen One star 7

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    The ground troops can fight to the end. Rax demands no less. Food? For the Empire, the strongest will consume the weakest. Hail Rax!
     
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  22. vncredleader

    vncredleader Jedi Master star 4

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    It took me a sec to realize just how dark that comment is.
     
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  23. ZY-Fighter

    ZY-Fighter Jedi Padawan star 1

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    Chris_Fives: I Liked your comment because of the truth in it, not because I'm excited about waiting. Sigh.
     
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  24. CooperTFN

    CooperTFN TFN EU Staff Emeritus star 6 VIP

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    Finally finished the book but I'm not reading 50 pages of this thread so I'll just leave this here as the entirety of my reaction.

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  25. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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