Amph Agents of SHIELD Discussion Thread (and Slingshot)

I thought that since this show is airing next week we should have a discussion thread separate from the main Marvel thread.

Trailer:


Coulson LIVES!!!

 

I see it's going to have Joss Wedon's trademark "snappy" dialogue .

 

You know one of the more interesting aspects of this for me, is going to be seeing people, who before Avengers were probably unaware that Superheroes, at least beyond Iron Man even existed, cope with a post - Avengers reality. Should be fun.

 

I hope its good, but its one of those things where, its part of the universe, but we're never going to see Hulk, Iron Man or the other heavy hitters so itll always feel a little...less.

Its fine for being a show on the little people but even so.

 

I'm sure they'll find a way to work them in. I'm also sure that when they get around to it they'll heavily promote the 10 second cameo for weeks beforehand.

 

I'm really really hoping we get at least a few apperances by SLG. Having Colbie Smuthers reprise Maria for the pilot (and presumably beyond once HIMYM ends), is good, but every once in awhile we need to see the head honcho in action. Even if it's just a five minute cameo.

 

Tuesday at 8PM EDT.

 

Hopefully this show will fail, and even more hopefully it will mark the beginning of the decline for this superhero trend. I like stories that are about people, whatever their circumstance, and increasingly these all seem to be about excuses for stupid action set pieces interspersed with dialogue that doesn't amount to much more than quips.

Ess Ell Gee is in this movie? Is that why she moved to California?

 

I liked the concept of this, at first. But then I saw the first trailer, and I liked it less. With every new promotional clip, my interest continues to fall.

 

I don't think I insulted anyone. I said that the Marvel superhero movies aren't particularly character driven. They aren't. The time other types of stories would spend on character development are instead spent on moments that a lot of audiences apparently find "fun." I don't begrudge them that. I just pointed out the results.

Similarly, Terrence Malick films have a lot beautiful cinematography, but can sometimes become ponderously slow and meandering, so that the result is something out of a perfume commercial. That's fine. Some people like perfume commercials. Some perfume commercials are even universally recognized as good. But that's still what it is, and it's not offensive to say so.

 

The advertising has sucked, but I think that's more a matter of ABC's promotional strategy being stupid. "The Avengers was a huge box office juggernaut! People love box office juggernaut The Avengers! We've got to tell everyone that this show is related to box office juggernaut The Avengers! We need to revolve every single ad around the fact that Agent Coulson, that one guy you know from box office juggernaut The Avengers, is in the show and he's not dead, because people love mysteries and this is the only recognizable character we have that links us to box office juggernaut The Avengers! LEVEL SEVEN!"

I wouldn't necessarily hold it against the show, because we haven't seen any of the show yet. Just Clark Gregg's mug. Over and over and over.

 

Wocky, you haven't even seen the show yet, so how do you even know, whether or not it's character driven or not? (for the record: Given that it's a Joss Whedon backed show, it more than likely will have character driven stories)

 

I never claimed to. I gave a prediction based on previous Marvel superhero movies. If they turn out to have made something very different in this case, I'll be happily surprised.

 

Honestly as much as I don't want to, I agree with Wocky. And I ****ing love Marvel. I'm just not going to go ahead and say that the Marvel films have done the comics justice in that area. And since my area of expertise is Thor, I'd say that's a fantastic example of how they've failed. You watch the cutscenes for Thor. That's character. More dialogue, more internal conflict, less harsh and direct action. Marvel comics have got such complex characters that just get flattened out in the films. Not saying it's a black and white situation where there's NO character driven stuff or development at all, but it's just really one of their huge weak points.

 

Oh, it's probably going to suck. But I'm not going to wish that it fails.

 

I find your lack of faith disturbing.

 

What I'll say is this: A TV series is a different animal than a 2 hour (give or take these days) big - screen film. In a TV series there is going to be more time given to flesh out characters and potentially give them complex arcs and motivations. Which quite frankly has tended to be one of Joss and his production team's strengths, that probably doesn't translate all the way to the big screen given the time constrants that a movie has. I'm not going to judge the show until I see it, but I'm willing to give it a shot.

 

I all seriousness I hope they introduce Squirrel Girl into the universe in this show. She is badass.

 

Fair enough. Maybe the new medium will power the changes we want. Juliet316 you always support Christmas music, so I guess I feel obligated to give this a shot too.

 

Heavy hitters? The only heavu hitter who might not make a showing for a cameo would be RDJ. Do the other actors seem like people who won't participate in some way if the show is a hit? of course, it has to be a hit, it has to be good.

 

I sure RDJ also would love to do some episodes. It is he just costs too much.