Amph Agents of SHIELD Discussion Thread (and Slingshot)

I like The Matrix flavor in this last episode. The first program of a relaxing and peaceful setting was rejected, so it was rewritten to have suffering and conflict and it has happened many times before. Agent May is "the One."

Kind of a bizarre tangent with Mack's character. It seems kind of a lame tangent to create drama with his relationship with YoYo. I wonder if it's true.

I love the referencing to the Skovia Accords and how it's playing a part in the show.

 

Yeah, I got the Matrix reference as well.

 

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No, he's always been this way. He just believes that everyone should be an LMD, so that way everyone can be immortal. He's not evil as he doesn't order Aida to kill and is aghast at the idea. Radcliffe is just very misguided as a person. He's Tony Stark without a conscience to keep him grounded.

 

That reminds of when Tony tells Bruce to embrace being a mad scientist and him "wanting to help Bruce" create Vision shortly after Ultron was created.

 

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Well Robbie's uncle, whose name I don't remember, didn't turn completely evil at first either. Could be the same with Radcliffe...doesn't want to kill...at first.

 

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Not likely. He had already built Aida before he found out about the Darkhold. And he talked about his intentions to merge organic life with cybernetics as a benefit for mankind, which was his operation was all about in season three. No, this has been his goal all along. He just wants the Darkhold because it can cut down his efforts by a considerable sum. Much like using Ultron shaved time off of Tony and Bruce's ideas for beyond what could be done with Jarvis.

 

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So Radcliffe was corrupted by the Dark Hold, if I heard it right. Also, how did Simmons figure out that May's brain had been programmed? Isn't Radcliffe the least bit concerned that his LMD's are falling into enemy hands? Why is he drinking with the captain dude at the end and acting like they're equal partners when he could just have AIDA bump him off and either escape or take over his organization? Radcliffe isn't in it for the anti-Inhuman crusade, he just wants the book.

 

In regards to May, Simmons knows Radcliffe mapped May's brain from back when they saved her earlier in the season by "rebooting" her "Uprising" and recovery in "Let Me Stand Next To Your Fire"

 

Ah, right.

 

One of the things I'm really liking is how seemingly throwaway plot points in Season Xa will become the driving force of Season Xb -- I think they're really come around with knowing they can't sustain a 22-episode plot, since they're bad at it, though it was absolutely necessary in S1... but that two 11-episode plots per year works much better, both for the show and as a comic-book adaptation.

 

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How? He didn't read it. Only Aida did. He's referring to what Aida did with creating the artificial brain for the LMD's and helping to construct the portal that saved him, Fitz and Coulson. As well as what he knows about what Robbie's uncle did with it.

 

Okay, maybe I didn't hear it right then.

 

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Yes he did. Before Aida read the book, Radcliffe started to. It seems like you only need to glance at it for it to corrupt you. Hence why Coulson and May kept it at arm's length the entire time.

 

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Yeah, Robbie's uncle only got a glimpse and it was enough to drive him nuts.

 

Very good considering Black Widow was able to upload her consciousness into LMD in the upcoming Ghost In the Shell film.

I'm betting that Agent May will be "The One" in the Matrix ERRRRRRRRRRRRR framework.

 

That whole scene was pretty great.

 

okay now i'm just tired of the LMD story

 

I would have been fine if they had wrapped it up with the team finding out that notMay was an LMD. But now, I agree it's tiresome.

 

Or is it...

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Remember that Fitz was, literally, the only one left alone for the most part. Quake traded off with Coulson on the Superior; Mack and the Director were together, and Coulson met up with them.

Is everyone replaced with LMDs, or is Fitz in the Matrix, solving an unsolvable problem with Gemma, because that's his wish-fulfillment, like May saving the girl as The Cavalry was May's?

 

I agreed before I saw the latest episode. The latest episode reminded me of the comic book series, Secret Invasion. Now, if Norman Osborn would just show up at the end of the story arc and shoot a LMD in the head in front of the media it would make it all worth it.

Spoiler

Yeah, I had the same thought too that Fitz could be in the Matrix ERRRRR Framework. I won't surprise me if that's actually the case, as I think it would very difficult to have four LMDs, especially to have all of them operational with Daisy's, Coulson's and Mack's memories as their brains would have to be mapped for the LMDs. Director Mace, I could see could have happened since he was captured.

 

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How was it that Fitz and Simmons were the ones who experienced the time discrepancy if they were the ones who weren't plugged into the Matrix? Or do I need to watch this episode again...