Amph Agents of SHIELD Discussion Thread (and Slingshot)

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All those SkyeWard shippers can rejoice...

 

Well, that's actually why I'm sort of onboard with GenAntilles' conceptual theory...

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We know the Hive gestalt retains the host memories -- what if one of those memories is strong enough to override the Hive-personality? What is Ward's demented desire for Daisy/Skye allows her to override Hive and she has to sacrifice herself in an exploding Quinjet to stop him because she's the only one who can lure him there?

 

There's a Brett Dalton interview where he points out that Ward is still in there, the same way Mallick's brother rises to the top when he confronts him. It'd be kind of nifty if Ward is so determined to Not Freakin' Die that he flat-out overcomes Hive. That darn Ward, he may be dead but he's still crafty as hell.

 

also...

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would be tragic for Coulson losing his surrogate daughter because of his sin in getting revenge on Ward. Ward will be responsible for taking away two of the women he loved most.

 

Even though the show is better than what it was at the very beginning, I'm done after this season. I understand the show needs to be itself and not just advertisement for the next Marvel movie, but there needs to be more of a connection to make it interesting, and nowadays there is zero connection, other than someone maybe offhandedly saying the name Thor or Hulk.

The rescue scene last show was one of the crappiest things I have seen so far. It sucked so bad.

 

Ironically the more connections the show does the more complaints it gets for just trying to ride the movies coattails.

Same with the Netflix shows. No references, it's bad. When they do reference, still bad.

 

And the same with, well, pretty much everything. People want things, but when they get them all they do is complain.

 

So with the season ramping up to a close, and Civil War two weeks out, I wonder how it'll integrate to the nearly mandatory Marvel movie being released that week tie-in episode and how much it'll stick out compared to the season arc and where it's headed. I thought it was well done last year, although the gal going off on Metal Men from the skies was a cool shout-out to Age of Ultron to end the episode but didn't have any payoff in the show proper. It's just like "Yeah, this happened at the theatres this week in between episodes" But I thought they way they worked Coluson into the hellicarrier in Ultron was pretty inspired. (Although I do still wish they had had the AoS crew, sans Coulson of course, driving the helicarrier in Ultron).

the tie-in eps probably won't get as good as those eps after Winter Solider came out but those were so awesome because it flipped the entire show on it's ear and directly intertwined with the story of the movie. Also I thought it was funny when Agent Sitwell showed upon AoS and then got called away to the freighter in the opening scene of Winter Solider. It was like watching a guy get called up from the minors in the middle of a game.

 

I miss Patton Oswalt.

 

Well, you can always watch S1 and S2 on Netflix. It's how I got into the show, actually.

 

So...

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Hydra is no more... and they end the mission with the phrase 'the head has been cut'. Feel that's almost asking for them to come back what with, 'cut off one head, two more shall take it's place.' but given the movies said Hydra was destroyed with Strucker in AoU it was only a matter of time before the show had to match that as well. Can't have everyone in Civil War saying Hydra is gone when they are flying jets openly in cities firing at police cars.

 

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Fire guy is actually the show's version of Hellfire from the Secret Warriors series. They've been introducing the other major team members over the course of the season (we already got yo-yo with Elena and Eden Fesi was mentioned I believe. Plus Daisy herself of course. And Lincoln and Joey are show-exclusive members).

So Fitz and Simmons finally die the horizontal tango, heck yeah. Now don't you dare "pull a Whedon" show and have something horrible happen to one of them. Give them at least, half a season or so to try and make this work at least.

Hive Ward is creepy and I love Brett Dalton's portrayal of him. Don't know how I feel about the possibility that this "rescue Daisy" plot might take up the entire rest of the season, but we'll see how it goes.

 

The sad part is, I can totally see that happening.

 

Is there any other program out there with so many characters? Now there are Triplicate Girl Alisha and the Australian guy to keep track of. This is the only program I watch so perhaps NCIS and other action-y shows do the same after 3 years. Just wondering.

 

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Let's not forget there's Baron Zemo and Crossbones running around in Civil War.

In a way, I guess it's good to get rid of that element for now and cover new ground. The Inhumans threat has been a great alternative.

 

How are we not mentioning the coolest moment of last night?

Coulson has a freaking SHIELD in his hand!

"I thought it would be cool if the Director of SHIELD had a shield."


Also more worried than ever for the original team. I just fear it's May or Fitz. Jemma is in danger too. But May is Coulson's right hand. And with Andrew's story wrapped up, her development is also sort of done. And Fitz and Simmons keep saying they are cursed so...

Really hope it is one of the newer members. But can't shake the feeling it's one of the original team.

 

With Fitz and Simmons finding love, their deaths seem imminent. But, on the plus side, Lincoln was strapped into a Murder Vest so maybe he is blown up in space because whatever (hopefully the reason is "Because you're Lincoln and you're annoying us" and they explode him). And the Coulson SHIELD shield is pretty darn fantastic.

As for wiping out HYDRA, I actually liked it because it basically happened off screen while Coulson was relegated to simply watching, in a sort of mildly resigned way. I betcha bottom dollar that in Civil War there's a reference to no more HYDRA anymore so AoS is putting it's ducks in a row. Give 'em five episodes, two more will take it's place. But if this is truly the end of HYDRA on AoS, that would be a bit of a shame that it ended as an afterthought.

Also did anyone else get the feeling May was bickering with Coulson just cuz Civil War is out next week so they had a sort of philosophical difference between the two main leads?

Anyway, next week is the one before Civil War so maybe it'll split up along Hive and Company hole up in the Hotel of Horrors and move the Inhumans plot along whilst I guess our SHIELD characters will do some piece moving for Civil War in the larger MCU.