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AICN reports: Possible Clone Wars Cartoon on Cartoon network( get your big container of salt ready)

Discussion in 'Literature' started by Matthew Trias, Nov 13, 2002.

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  1. Matthew Trias

    Matthew Trias Force Ghost star 6

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    This just in from AICN:

    CLONE WARS Animated Series on CARTOON NETWORK!!!

    Hey folks, Harry here... As always my spies in Lucasfilm, well... pretty much they kick*ss. I love em, because as always they provide me with the ability to see and hear things far before the average person. So much so at times that the news seems made up, but in reality... It's just out there waiting for the rotation of the earth to pass round the sun enough times to catch up to the news.

    This came from a source that I ABSOLUTELY TRUST, he/she/it has been providing news to AICN for years out of Lucasfilm - and he/she/it doesn't drop the ball. I'm told that very very few people know the following bit of info, so getting confirmation on it will most likely be a *****, but since this sort doesn't tickle the jewels without following through, I'm going with it.

    There have been top secret meetings between Lucasfilm and Cartoon Network, and they are in ADVANCE DISCUSSIONS to do an immense animated series called CLONE WARS. The time frame is still being discussed as either starting the year before Episode 3 hits theaters, or the Summer of Episode 3. Lucas is negotiating for a huge 50-60 episode order!!!

    I just hope that they get smart and get some of the talent that worked on DROIDS a billion years ago that has evolved into somebody super great at the Animated Series... How cool would it be if they brought on Paul Dini to be a Writer/Producer for this? Can you ... imagine? Ok, that's me being a fanboy, but dammit, nobody writes better toons on TV! NOBODY! This news will most likely be denied till Lucasfilm and Cartoon Network are ready to Announce, but you heard it here first!


    Thoughts? Do you think they'll tie it in with all the EU books andcomics that are coming out?


    Personally I hope this isn't true. I'm a continuity freak and this could be a nightmare. Plus, I don't have cable , gah. If they do release a series like this, they'd better make all episodes availible on VHS and DVD.

    Edit: Just had to fix two word up. Please be a little more careful when reposting things Matt.
     
  2. DarthKarde

    DarthKarde Jedi Knight star 5

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    This would be an awful idea. It would drag Star Wars down into the gutter.
     
  3. Sturm Antilles

    Sturm Antilles Former Manager star 6

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    I think that, if true, this could only be a good thing.

    If guided by Lucasfilm continuity gurus, they should have absolutely no problem in navigating the Clone Wars period. It's much easier, continuity-wise, then the post-Episode III/Rise of the Empire timeframe.

    I just hope...hope to the Force, that the animation is high-quality, and stays away from CG crap.
     
  4. wild_karrde

    wild_karrde Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    While it's possible, I don't know if it's likely Like you said, continuity wise, it'd be a nightmare. I highly doubt they'd take into account the EU, because it'd be aimed at general viewers, not die hards.







    But it'd still be cool :cool:
     
  5. ADMIRALSPUZZUM

    ADMIRALSPUZZUM Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Yay! I was waiting for someone to post this here!

    I am in favour of it myself.

    Does anyone here wonder about the reaction from the movie boards? I was expecting "George Lucas is a sell-out" argument, but folk there are being very receptive to it!
     
  6. Matthew Trias

    Matthew Trias Force Ghost star 6

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    This would be an awful idea. It would drag Star Wars down into the gutter

    Why? There are many good cartoons today that handle adult themes like war adequately. (batman animated series was pretty dern good)
     
  7. Even__Piell

    Even__Piell Jedi Padawan star 4

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    its pretty weird...the eu folks arent treatin the idea too greatly...but the movie folks are ecstatic...u'd think it would be the other way around [face_plain]

    personally i think its a greeeeaaat idea!!!!
     
  8. Sturm Antilles

    Sturm Antilles Former Manager star 6

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    I highly doubt they'd take into account the EU, because it'd be aimed at general viewers, not die hards.

    Are you implying that only we would understand any novel or comic elements that might happen to appear on the show? I think not.

    Also, several EU writers, notably Steve Perry and Michael Reeves, have written for episodic animated series.

    If the Holiday Special, Ewoks and Droids can be a part of the EU, I don't see why a better-quality, modern series, featuring more notable characters, and tying into the vast vault of existing stories, cannot work.

    One more thing...The show won't be using EU elements. It is EU. :)
     
  9. Matthew Trias

    Matthew Trias Force Ghost star 6

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    Are you implying that only we would understand any novel or comic elements that might happen to appear on the show? I think not.

    I'd hope the history for many of the planets in the GFFA as presented in the EU would be used in the toon. As well as the history of the Sith and Jedi.
     
  10. wild_karrde

    wild_karrde Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    Are you implying that only we would understand any novel or comic elements that might happen to appear on the show?

    No, I'm saying that they probably wouldn't be as concerned about sticking to the continuity. However, if Lucy Wilson & co are in charge, and have creative control to keep the continuity flowing with the established EU, and advancing the EU, then it would be Ok.

    But if they are just going to use this as a way to get more kids interested, then I think it'd be a bad idea.
     
  11. Ozzel

    Ozzel TF.N Foreign Book Covers Staff star 5 VIP

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    I highly doubt they'd take into account the EU, because it'd be aimed at general viewers, not die hards.

    They know they'd never hear the end of it if they did that.
     
  12. Sturm Antilles

    Sturm Antilles Former Manager star 6

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    PezMan : They'd never hear the end of it.

    Exactly.

    I'm sure they may make some mistakes and "bend" some continuity in areas, but I'd figure it would be more the fault of someone not having the right information, or deciding to disregard it for the sake of the story/episode.

    I don't know about anyone else, but after everything I've seen Lucasfilm fit into continuity, whether it's videogames, kid's books or obscure comics, I'm fairly confidant that a possible cartoon series will have absolutely no large problems sliding into the existing puzzle.
     
  13. dp4m

    dp4m Chosen One star 10

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    Why? There are many good cartoons today that handle adult themes like war adequately. (batman animated series was pretty dern good)

    Uhhh, there were plenty "back in the day" as well. Robotech, ExoSquad and Galaxy Rangers are some off the top of my head from the way back machine that all handled adult themes like war, cause and effect, responsibility for actions and choices, etc. very well. Plus combined with the fact that even the Clone Wars is still Star Wars -- there shouldn't be much "adult themage" to worry about in the first place.

    Also, several EU writers, notably Steve Perry and Michael Reeves, have written for episodic animated series.

    In addition, James Luceno (and his partner, the late, lamented Brian Daley) and Shelly Shapiro (plus two other senior editors at DR) wrote for Galaxy Rangers. And while I certainly have issues with the NJO, I can't fault their expertise with a cartoon series that remains my favorite to this day.

    My take is -- if the Droids cartoon and the Ewoks cartoon (considering that Paul Dini WROTE for Ewoks) can have almost no problems with EU continuity, then a Clone War cartoon released now, when everyone's MORE focused on continuity, this can be nothing but a good thing. (Well... as long as it's done RIGHT, unlike the new Transformers... :))
     
  14. Matthew Trias

    Matthew Trias Force Ghost star 6

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    , ExoSquad

    I never watched the other two. Exo Squad was superb. That toon certainly didn't dumb things down for kids.

    The reason why I said what I said, is because people seem to be afraid of a new droid's cartoon.

    And I say there were plenty of adult themes in AotCs ;) Being the Clone Wars..well... I doin't think they could really do a fun silly cartoon...
     
  15. Mavrick889

    Mavrick889 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Paul Dini wrote a few episodes of Ewoks back in the day. He's amazing. They definately need to get him...and Bruce Timm needs to design the series. Oh man, it would rock so much.
     
  16. Ketalis

    Ketalis Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Na, I'd take Shinichiro Watanabe (director of Cowboy Bebop) anyday. I doubt this series will be anywhere near that quality however, lol.
     
  17. Mavrick889

    Mavrick889 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    manga star wars would be foolish.
     
  18. JediNev05

    JediNev05 Jedi Youngling star 1

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    cowboy beebop style star fights
    (shudders)
     
  19. KitFisto777

    KitFisto777 Jedi Youngling star 1

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    This could be good if it works with the existing continuity.

    Off Topic: Could someone tell me what ExoSquad was about. My friends' band is called ExoSquad and they found the name in a TV program grid and liked the sound of it. Thanks.
     
  20. Skylark

    Skylark Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Wouldn't it be canon and a part of the EU if it were made???


    And if it was made, and wasn't crap, could you not contain yourself from pooping your pants???

    Just questions to ponder....

     
  21. dp4m

    dp4m Chosen One star 10

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    Off Topic: Could someone tell me what ExoSquad was about. My friends' band is called ExoSquad and they found the name in a TV program grid and liked the sound of it. Thanks.

    ExoSquad was about this: Earth, Mars and Venus were colonies and Earth had been contacted by aliens called NeoSapiens -- either created accidentally or conquered invaders. They were essentially quasi-subjugated and eventually rebelled and took Mars and Venus in insurrection. The ExoSquad were humans with Exoskeleton power-armor that they used to, originally, fight pirates and were now used to fight the stronger, faster NeoSapiens. There was much war, people died, people changed their opinions and characters because there was tight continuity, etc, etc. It was generally "kick-***" in that respect. That may not be the most accurate recounting, but close enough for gov't work, I think...

    RoboTech and Galaxy Rangers did it as well (and did it first) but ExoSquad was generally the most accessible of the three for mainstream kids as a) it came last and b) it dealt with class/race issues with war as a changing background rather than Robotech's similar issues a decade too early or GR's "sci-fi Western" approach.
     
  22. Matthew Trias

    Matthew Trias Force Ghost star 6

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    ExoSquad was about this: Earth, Mars and Venus were colonies and Earth had been contacted by aliens called NeoSapiens

    Actually, they were created as slaves for Earth. Genetically engineered humanoids created to serve man. However, they rebelled against their Terran masters. They were supressed finally, and later started getting equal rights. However, one Neosapien, Phaeton couldn't let go of the past. He built up an army and conquered the Solar system.
     
  23. dp4m

    dp4m Chosen One star 10

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    Actually, they were created as slaves for Earth. Genetically engineered humanoids created to serve man. However, they rebelled against their Terran masters. They were supressed finally, and later started getting equal rights. However, one Neosapien, Phaeton couldn't let go of the past. He built up an army and conquered the Solar system.

    Right... I knew something in my description sounded wrong... :)
     
  24. Matthew Trias

    Matthew Trias Force Ghost star 6

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    After fifty years, the pirates grew more aggressive in attacking the Homeworlds? interstellar shipping routes. The General Assembly of the Homeworlds debated the issue, and Martian Governor Phaeton (a Neo sapien) proposed that an Exofleet (a fleet of exo-framed soldiers) be dispatched to bring down the pirates. The Exofleet flew out to battle the pirates, which played perfectly into Phaeton?s plans. The Governor had secretly been building up military might for the Neo sapiens, and with Exofleet far from home, Phaeton launched a surprise assault, conquering earth and sparking a new war between Neo sapien and homo sapien.

    The series focused primarily on the activities of Able Squad, a division of Exofleet. Able was led by J.T. Marsh and included intelligence officer Alec DeLeo, tech expert Maggie Weston, trooper Wolf Bronski, recon specialist Nara Burns, and Marsala, a Neo sapien sympathetic to the ?Terran? cause. Aside from Phaeton, the Neo sapien leadership included Draconis, Livanus, Typhonus, Thrax, and Shiva. The pirates were led by Jonas Simbacca.


    Exo Squad

    Exo Squad Episode synopsis
     
  25. sdp

    sdp Jedi Master star 2

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    I think it is a great idea,
    even though i bet it won't follow the EU exactly it will be fixable (more than episode 2 so not that hard)
    It will probably be really bad but hey, more clone wars even if its for kids is still clone wars for me :)
     
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