Lit All Time Lit Forum Review Rankings

Wow, those stats are really interesting - for all the complaining and complaining (and complaining) about LotF, its series average is over 7.5? If they were movies, that'd be 3 out of 4 stars - the Literature forum, as a whole, has given the LotF series 3 stars. Really think about that for a second. And the lowest series average of all (minus the BHW, granted) is 6.44? We really like us some Star Wars in here. I guess I shouldn't be so surprised; this actually reinforces my own research pretty well...

 

Do Mods need to create these?

 

Maybe you could ask a mod about that.

And shouldn't the three books in the Han Solo Adventures be reviewed separately?

 

Are they able to be purchased seperately? I don't think that they are any more ... are they sold as an anthology?

If it is sold as a 3-story anthology, then I suggest it have only one review thread. Otherwise, it would be like having a seperate review thread for each short story in the 'Tales of ...' Anthologies.

 

We need those old books to get the chance to be rated.

 

Surprised Admuar is so high. Great book, but Allston has done better.

 

Good point. Discounting 'Revenge of the Sith', as it is a film adaptation, is 'Starfighters of Adumar' really the GREATEST ever Expanded Universe novel ever written in the Star Wars universe?

That alone is a worthy topic for debate.

 

That actually would make an interesting thread: take the top five books as the Lit Forum has reviewed them and discuss their various merits and demerits, and how they stack up against each other. Someone should make that thread. (I mean someone not me, FYI.)

I'll probably try to put together a Lit Reviews Books We Missed Special later today.

 

Excellent thread!

I just wonder if the master list is going to be updated anytime soon to include all the books that have come out since 2007?

 

The master list is on the previous page

 

Um, duh. I was asking if that list was going to be updated since the last update to it occurred in November 2007.

 

It was updated January 28th about 12 posts up.

 

Oh, sorry about that. But perhaps that could be imported to the first (or second) post, so as to alleviate any confusion?

 

I think you will need a Moderator to edit a post that old, and paste in the current results / data.

 

I'll edit that in. I'm also going to launch a retrospective review thread tomorrow.

 

The first retrospective review thread is up: The Approaching Storm.

 

Would it be possible to link the individual review threads to this one?

 

Updated:

Master List:

9.52 EPISODE III - REVENGE OF THE SITH (Stover)
9.32 X-Wing: Starfighters of Adumar (Allston)
9.26 Republic Commando: Hard Contact (Traviss)
9.20 Heir to the Empire (Zahn)
9.19 X-Wing: Solo Command (Allston)
9.18 Enemy Lines I: Rebel Dream (Allston)
9.13 The Unifying Force (Luceno)
9.12 Outbound Flight (Zahn)
9.04 Dark Force Rising (Zahn)
9.03 LABYRINTH OF EVIL (Luceno)
8.96 YODA: DARK RENDEZVOUS (Stewart)
8.92 Traitor (Stover)
8.91 X-Wing: Wraith Squadron (Allston)
8.90 Luke Skywalker and the Shadows of Mindor (Stover)
8.90 Star by Star (Denning)
8.89 Darth Maul: Shadow Hunter (Reaves)
8.84 I, Jedi (Stackpole)
8.79 Shatterpoint (Stover)
8.79 X-Wing: Iron Fist (Allston)
8.78 X-Wing: Rogue Squadron (Stackpole)
8.73 Episode IV: A New Hope (Lucas)
8.71 The Han Solo Adventures (Daley)
8.70 The Last Command (Zahn)
8.65 Tatooine Ghost (Denning)
8.64 X-Wing: The Bacta War (Stackpole)
8.63 Legacy of the Force VI: Inferno (Denning)
8.60 Cloak of Deception (Luceno)
8.59 Specter of the Past (Zahn)
8.57 Coruscant Nights I: Jedi Twilight (Reaves)
8.56 Vision of the Future (Zahn)
8.49 Episode I: The Phantom Menace (Brooks)
8.48 Episode VI: Return of the Jedi (Kahn)
8.48 Republic Commando: True Colors (Traviss)
8.46 Edge of Victory I: Conquest (Keyes)
8.45 X-Wing: Wedge's Gamble (Stackpole)
8.43 Enemy Lines II: Rebel Stand (Allston)
8.43 Republic Commando: Triple Zero (Traviss)
8.38 Dark Tide II: Ruin (Stackpole)
8.36 Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back (Glut)
8.27 Legacy of the Force I: Betrayal (Allston)
8.27 X-Wing: The Krytos Trap (Stackpole)
8.25 Legacy of the Force VII: Fury (Allston)
8.23 The Clone Wars: Wild Space (Miller)
8.21 Shadows of the Empire (Perry)
8.20 Survivor's Quest (Zahn)
8.14 MEDSTAR I: BATTLE SURGEONS (Reaves, Perry)
8.12 Destiny's Way (W. J. Williams)
8.09 Dark Tide I: Onslaught (Stackpole)
8.07 Dark Nest I: The Joiner King (Denning)
8.05 Dark Lord: The Rise of Darth Vader (Luceno)
8.05 Force Heretic I: Remnant (S. Williams, Dix)
8.03 Episode II: Attack of the Clones (Salvatore)
7.90 Dark Nest II: The Unseen Queen (Denning)
7.89 X-Wing: Isard's Revenge (Stackpole)
7.84 The Final Prophecy (Keyes)
7.82 Legacy of the Force IV: Exile (Allston)
7.80 Legacy of the Force III: Tempest (Denning)
7.76 Vector Prime (Salvatore)
7.73 The Clone Wars (Traviss)
7.72 Legacy of the Force II: Bloodlines (Traviss)
7.70 MEDSTAR II: JEDI HEALER (Reaves, Perry)
7.67 The Lando Calrissian Adventures (Smith)
7.63 The Cestus Deception (Barnes)
7.62 Coruscant Nights II: Streets of Shadows (Reaves)
7.56 Force Heretic II: Refugee (S. Williams, Dix)
7.54 Coruscant Nights III: Patterns of Force (Reaves)
7.42 Force Heretic III: Reunion (S. Williams, Dix)
7.38 Edge of Victory II: Rebirth (Keyes)
7.30 Darth Bane: Rule of Two (Karpyshyn)
7.26 Darth Bane: Path of Destruction (Karpyshyn)
7.26 Republic Commando: Order 66 (Traviss)
7.20 Death Star (Perry/Reaves)
7.18 Millennium Falcon (Luceno)
7.05 Legacy of the Force V: Sacrifice (Traviss)
7.00 Legacy of the Force IX: Invincible (Denning)
6.96 The Courtship of Princess Leia (Wolverton)
6.96 Jedi Search (Anderson)
6.90 Tyrant's Test (Kube-McDowell)
6.87 Showdown at Centerpoint (Allen)
6.81 Ambush at Corellia (Allen)
6.72 Allegiance (Zahn)
6.72 Assualt at Selonia (Allen)
6.72 Dark Nest III: The Swarm War (Denning)
6.70 Agents of Chaos I: Hero's Trial (Luceno)
6.70 Dark Journey (Cunningham)
6.64 Agents of Chaos II: Jedi Eclipse (Luceno)
6.63 Before the Storm (Kube-McDowell)
6.62 The Truce at Bakura (Tyers)
6.60 Champions of the Force (Anderson)
6.60 Rogue Planet (Bear)
6.50 Balance Point (Tyers)
6.29 The New Rebellion (Rusch)
6.28 Dark Apprentice (Anderson)
6.27 The Force Unleashed (Williams)
6.13 JEDI TRIAL (Sherman, Cragg)
5.97 Darksaber (Anderson)
5.95 Galaxies: The Ruins of Dantooine (Whitney-Robinson)
5.79 Shield of Lies (Kube-McDowell)
5.35 Legacy of the Force VIII: Revelation (Traviss)
5.20 Splinter of the Mind's Eye (Foster)
4.76 The Approaching Storm (Foster)
4.18 Children of the Jedi (Hambly)
3.81 Planet of Twlight (Hambly)
3.04 The Cr

 

The New Jedi Order: (Series Average: 7.90)
9.18 Enemy Lines I: Rebel Dream
9.13 The Unifying Force
8.92 Traitor
8.90 Star by Star
8.46 Edge of Victory I: Conquest
8.43 Enemy Lines II: Rebel Stand
8.38 Dark Tide II: Ruin


This is pretty telling and its what I always thought about the njo as a whole. Without stackpole and allston (two of my all time favs), a great middle and end act (SBS, TUF) and outstanding character pieces on Anakin and Jacen (EoV I, traitor) this series wouldnt have even cracked a 7.

 

The Jedi Academy Trilogy: (Series Average: 6.61)
6.96 Jedi Search
6.60 Champions of the Force
6.28 Dark Apprentice


this is really funny! Maybe I just need to reread these, but I remember loving this trilogy when it first came out hmmmm. Maybe im in the minority here. What were the major causes for complaint? I remember liking Kyp and the sun crusher story and the shocking destruction of cardia, the begining part in the mines was fun , establishing lukes new academy and meeting the new jedi to be, the danger on yavin 4 (i think this was from exar kun if im remembering right?), and winter protecting the solo kids. seemed to have alot of really good stuff, but like I said, it could be time for a reread.

 

The JKA was a great series that was written badly. So many new ideas and characters yet stylistically the books are horrible. I can't think of a series that has had more effect on the EU and that includes TTT and yet in took I, Jedi for me to retread any of it.

 

Second thread is up, here. I've also started including a link to the all-time rankings (I.e. here) thread in new reviews.

 

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LEADER: The New Jedi Order series is a bit mediocre, not even worth cracking a 7. And what has the NJO ever given the fans?

COMMANDO #1: Dark Tide.

LEADER: What?

COMMANDO #1: Stackpole's Dark Tide duology.

LEADER: Oh. Yeah, yeah. They did give us that. That's true. Yeah.

COMMANDO #2: And Allston.

COMMANDO #3: Oh, yeah, Allston's Enemy Lines duology. Remember all the witty one-liners?

LEADER: Yeah. All right. I'll grant you Dark Tide and Enemy Lines are two things that the NJO has done.

COMMANDO #1: And Traitor.

LEADER: Well, yeah. Obviously Traitor. I mean, Traitor goes without saying, doesn't it? But apart from Dark Tide, Enemy Lines, and Traitor--

COMMANDO #3: Star by Star.

COMMANDO #2: The Unifying Force.

LEADER: Yeah, yeah. All right. Fair enough.

COMMANDO #1: And Edge of Victory.

COMMANDOS: Oh, yes! Yeah...

COMMANDO #1: Yeah. Yeah, Anakin's characterization in that one is something we'd really miss, without the NJO.

LEADER: All right, but apart from Dark Tide, Enemy Lines, Traitor, Edge of Victory, Star by Star, and The Unifying Force, what has the NJO ever done for US?!


(Sorry, bschuster--I couldn't resist! )

 

See the post right above mine.

Seriously, though, right there you have almost half the series doing quite well in the ratings - including Traitor, which is one of the most controversial books out there. yes, people dislike parts of it... the point remains that the NJO did give us a lot of good books; you can't say, "Well, the NJO as a whole wasn't so great, ignoring these books over here," because those books over there are a significant part of the NJO. Wordcount wise, they may even come close to comprising half the series (because I'm pretty sure that between SBS and TUF you have a huge word count relative to the other hardcovers).