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Discussion Alleged EpVII Title / leaked info: The Twin Suns

Discussion in 'Star Wars: Episode VII and Beyond (Archive)' started by Darth Valkyrus, Apr 17, 2013.

  1. Son of a Bith

    Son of a Bith Jedi Master star 4

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    Why not, exactly?
     
  2. Joe

    Joe Jedi Master star 6

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    He's saying that - because Star Wars is "traditionally" a "boy" property - Disney would want some male main characters for the boys to "connect" to.

    I disagree. Young boys were fine connecting with Ashoka. Plus, Star Wars is more than a "young boy" property. It's for everyone, and it should appeal to everyone.
     
  3. Son of a Bith

    Son of a Bith Jedi Master star 4

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    Yes! If Star Wars is "traditionally" a boy property, I'm all for breaking tradition.
     
  4. Garth Maul

    Garth Maul Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I have to say I wouldn't hate TTS as a title, it could be worse.

    I just absolutely do not want to go back to Tatooine :p
     
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  5. GGrievous

    GGrievous Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    EP7 Character: "It appears that the person is located on Tatooine, a desert world. We must go there."

    [​IMG]
     
  6. Son of a Bith

    Son of a Bith Jedi Master star 4

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    lol I'd be SHOCKED if they didn't go back to Tatooine.
     
  7. Allana_Rey

    Allana_Rey Jedi Master star 4

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    Defiantly BS, if it's real which I pray it isn't the movie would be awful.
     
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  8. Trebor Sabreon

    Trebor Sabreon LACWAC-y Mod of SWTV & New Films Force projection star 4 Staff Member Manager

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    Eh, I don't know. I'm an uncle, as well as a father, and my nephews never seemed to get into Ahsoka, but loved Anakin, Obi-Wan, Mace, Rex and Yoda. Is that because Ahsoka is a girl? No idea, but it is what it is. It's just that sweeping statements are a dangerous thing. Some boys were fine 'connecting' with Ahsoka, where others did not.

    One thing that is crystal clear, though, is that a lot of boys prefer to have a 'guy' to emulate. And there's nothing wrong with that. It's no different than the girls who liked to pretend they could be like Leia, Padme or Ahsoka.

    After all, if someone said they want female main characters in Episode VII for the girls to "connect" to, would it be fair to say "I disagree. Young girls were fine connecting with Han."? If, as you say, Star Wars truly is to truly appeal to 'everyone,' then of course Disney would have every reason to be sure to include male lead characters for the 'boys to "connect" to,' as well. It works both ways.
     
  9. Jedi_Matt

    Jedi_Matt Jedi Master star 4

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    Coruscant
    Quinlan vos
    Kashyyk
    Sith and the rule of two?
    General Grievous

    Those are just off the top of my head...
     
  10. Mange

    Mange Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Coruscant - Only the name originates from the EU as Lucas was persuaded to use it.
    Kashyyk - Kashyyyk does not originate from the EU
    Sith and the rule of two? - Does not originate from the EU
    General Grievous - Does not originate from the EU
     
  11. Jedi_Matt

    Jedi_Matt Jedi Master star 4

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    Your argument for Coruscant doesn't carry any weight. Coruscant was established as the capital in Bantam-era EU

    Kashyyyk was introduced in the Star Wars holiday special...

    Sith was used in novelisation of ANH and defined further in the EU. Rule of two established in universe by the tales of the Jedi stuff. First mentioned in TPM.

    General Grievous first appeared in the clone wars cartoons and his wounds suffered in that series were replicated on screen in ROTS (his cough). His origin was also dealt with in the comics...
     
  12. DANNASUK

    DANNASUK Force Ghost star 7

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    I cannot see this being real. Yes, the EU will be altered but Disney would not seek to destroy it all. Plus, EPVII was kept secret a year before the Disney buy-out; leaks are likely to be impossible - all scripts would be documented to ensure it doesn't happen. The consequences for leaking info are pretty draconian. Micky's influence within the movie industry is enough to put people off leaking scripts and plot briefs.
     
  13. bluesaber70

    bluesaber70 Jedi Knight star 2

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    I highy think the title wont be released until late next year at the soonest
     
  14. Mange

    Mange Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    The idea for Coruscant came from the pre-production of ROTJ for which the Imperial capital was designed as an ecumenopolis. Only the name came from the EU.

    George Lucas developed Kashyyyk as he was writing the original Star Wars movie.

    Sith was used in almost every early SW-draft.

    Grievous was developed for ROTS, so I really don't understand your argument here. Grievous wasn't "copied" from the EU.
     
  15. Jedi_Matt

    Jedi_Matt Jedi Master star 4

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    I consider 'PT' to be the movies of the prequel trilogy, not concepts that weren't utilised in any of the movies that were developed later in EU works (such as those described in my earlier posts).

    Everything I mentioned was a concept which the EU turned into something real, simple as that.
     
  16. Darth Swede

    Darth Swede Jedi Knight star 1

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    Although this could be (and probably is) total BS, I like some of the concepts, like "Avonis shipyard" and "Death Star debris". Not bad for a little fur ball!
     
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  17. jnrssa

    jnrssa Jedi Padawan

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    Find this hard to believe but if it is legit hey ho something new right?
     
  18. Garth Maul

    Garth Maul Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Most likely. There's way too many "nods" (read: ripoffs) of other Saga scenes, and I think Lucas was quite careful not to do that when writing the PT.

    However, reading a description of, say, TPM, hardly leaves one breathless with anticipation. :p

    Taxation of trade routes? 8 year old boy driving race cars?
     
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  19. Blue Ice Cream

    Blue Ice Cream Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    As soon as I read '...taxation of trade routes...' I exclaimed to myself "This is gonna be good." :p
     
  20. Miras-Etrin

    Miras-Etrin Jedi Knight star 2

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    I totally see what happened! Ventress was disappointed with both Nightsisters and Sith, so she with Ahsoka founded Order of Twin suns, from the both Light and the Dark side. Ahsoka, being the first Light oriented "Darth" didn´t get a fancy nickname! Also, very word "Darth" means "Sun" from the language of ancestors of Wookiees hailing from Chupacabra system.

    Seriously though, I don´t believe this although it evokes "Son of Suns", title from the unused Journal of the Whills notes.
    EDIT: I just realized there is that Dark/White circle logo on the page. Or is that something universal?
     
  21. Darth_Panicius

    Darth_Panicius Jedi Knight star 2

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    Shall we clarify something first.

    ALL EU material had to be authorised by Lucas/Lucasfilm before published so that it was consistent with his universe.

    As Lucas is staying on the production as Creative Consultant, I cannot see that the EU, which Lucas had to okay first, would be totally disregarded. I would imagine that names, characters, etc. would be consistent throughout.
     
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  22. Jedi_Liz

    Jedi_Liz Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    I really hope Luke would not actually be a HERMIT on DAGOBAH...why would he want to live on a planet without food that a HUMAN can survive on? Yoda didn't mind eating swamp stew for 20+ years...he's a Prog (the son of Miss Piggy and Kermit the Frog). I have a nephew who is really starting to get into star wars at the age of 6...he'll be 8 when Episode 7 comes out....the movie just needs to have Tie Fighters for him to be happy.
     
  23. KitsterAKABobaFett

    KitsterAKABobaFett Jedi Master star 3

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    Even though I highly doubt the legitimacy of all this, I have to say I like the ideas. The Twin Suns is a cool title, and Darth Khaaos is a clever anagram for Ahsoka if that's who it's supposed to be.

    Also, I remember having a film magazine in the pre-TPM days which described a rumor that Natalie Portman's character would be named "Thenna." If that's a name that Lucas ever actually threw around back then, I could definitely see a variation of it (Thena) resurfacing in the ST.
     
  24. chris hayes

    chris hayes Jedi Master star 4

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    The Twin Suns is certainly a better title than The Phantom Menace but The Twin Suns is not a great title that most people would like ........
     
  25. chris hayes

    chris hayes Jedi Master star 4

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    There's no rime nor reason to why Luke would be hiding like a hermit on Dagobah .....At least Obi-Wan and Yoda had a reason & yeah if Luke was going to hide out I think the last place would be Dagobah.....something like Endor would be better or another Green Planet as in find something normal to eat ........