Am I the ONLY one who feels the SW Trilogy is better than the SW Saga?!?!?!?

No Brody, you're not the only one at all.
I utterly disagree with your view, but that's just me.

 

Brody, I agree with your assessment. Yoda's surprise introduction is spoiled by the PT. So is Vader being Luke's father. Han flying through the asteroids is spoiled by Obi-wan doing the same in AOTC. Etc.

While the jury is still out (of course) on E3, the OT is definitely not helped by the PT thus far.

 

Quite a few of those things would have been changed by the PT no matter how it was done, however.

I do feel the entire Saga is better than either one of the seperate trilogies. Of course, since Episode III isn't out yet, it's not really proper to compare the two as complete pieces.

 

No, you're not the only one.

I, however, feel that the saga is greater than the sum of its parts and that the PT enriches the OT.

 

Yoda's surprise introduction is spoiled by the PT. So is Vader being Luke's father. Han flying through the asteroids is spoiled by Obi-wan doing the same in AOTC. Etc.

I disagree. Most people, (myself not included, unfortunatly) saw the OT long before the PT. So how could the PT have ruined those scenes? It already happened... well, actually I guess I can kinda see your point about the asteriods, but not about Yoda. I mean, Ben told Luke that Yoda was a Jedi and had trained him. Yoda had to be there, otherwise it would look silly: some Jedi no one even heasd of or saw suddenly appears in the OT out of no where claiming to have trained Obi.

Plus, how is Vader being Luke's dad ruined by the PT? Luke doesn't even exist yet in the PT.

 

He means if you were to watch the saga for the first time those scenes would be ruined.

 

before episode 1, i thought the pt would blend in better with the ot. now it seems more of a seperate trilogy. i'm not saying i don't like the pt, i just see it more as two trilogy's rather than a saga.

 

The big difference I am seeing is at the time when the OT came out, each episode stood on it's own and people loved each for what they were ( even ROTJ with it's faults ).

But the defining phrase of PT is "I'll wait till EP3 to make a judgment".

Instead of just wanting more after each episode of the OT, after each episode of PT people only seem to want more only so it'll make sense.

 

The only SW film I don't love is AOTC. I just saw TPM again the other day and I still think it's great. It's my second favorite of the series. I like to think of SW as a saga and not just a trilogy with three movies tagged on 16 years later that ruined everything.

 

wow "Kiltak"
you hit the nail right on the head in my opinion
I've never read a post that was so close to my own feelings and thoughts about the PT
well done

 

Funny, I had a conversation with my older brother last weekend about how he thought Star Wars was so much better before the whole "I'm your father" business in Empire Strikes Back. To him, the Star Wars movie (ANH) is far better than the Star Wars trilogy. "I hate that everyone's related to each other!"

To each his own.

 

He means if you were to watch the saga for the first time those scenes would be ruined.

Yes, I know. But except for the scene with Obi-Wan in the asteriods (got a point there; they shouldn't have done that), I don't believe the scenes were ruined, and if they are, it's nessessary for the story to make sense. Yoda HAS to be there. Luke HAS to be born.

 

Yeah, DarthToeJam, several people I know hated Vader being Luke's father as well. They felt it was a soap-opera cliche'. I knew a few guys who hated that so much they didn't even go to ROTJ and have basicially ignored SW since 1980.

One person's treasure is another person's trash, I guess.

 

My personal view.


The OT is a helluva a lot better than the PT. It had characters we cared about, witty humor, catchy lines, an interesting plot, and a fair balance of story and special effects. The prequels lost all of that.

 

Now, with the PT, we now know that the little senile creature is Yoda right from the very beginning. It takes away the fun, suprise and mystery that the scene previously had.

Well, how do you think they should have made Yoda? A fruitcake Jedi master?

Actually, that would have been pretty cool...

 

PT = OT

 

How is the intro of Yoda spoiled? It is more of a surprise to see how he ends up on some bog world.

 

Based on the last two movie TPM & AOTC, yes I think that the OT will lose a lot of it's mystique once Epi 3 comes out but maybe Episode 3 will change my outlook on things althought I doubt it!!

 

My absolute favorite time in the SW saga is the KOTOR era. Or even longer in the past.

The republic was at it's gretest, the jedi were powerful, and the Sith were ever threatening.

I find it a little sad that KOTOR, a videogame, has a better story than all the PT, so far.

They should have scrapped the Anakin Skywalker backstory trilogy and went back further to the times of Marka Ragnos and Naga Sadow and the Great Sith war.

 

"I had a conversation with my older brother last weekend about how he thought Star Wars was so much better before the whole "I'm your father" business in Empire Strikes Back. To him, the Star Wars movie (ANH) is far better than the Star Wars trilogy."

"several people I know hated Vader being Luke's father as well."


Wow. That's very, very cool. I thought I was the only one who felt that way. I'm glad to hear of such fans!

 

All of the suprises that everyone here keeps talking about (Yoda's identity, Vader being Luke's father, etc.) are just a one-time deal because once you've seen it, it's no longer a suprise and there's no way you can maintain it after 25 years even if you wanted to nor if the prequals didn't exist.

We know who they are now and the prequals are here to tell their backstory.

 

What surprises me when I watch the episodes in order (and pretend it's the first time ) is not Yoda, but the planet Dagobah. But that's probably just me.

But what the PT definately improves is the presence of the Emperor in ROTJ:

In the OT, with all due respect, he's just a feeble old man, and you know little about him.

In the Saga, you've already seen his treachery and cunning, and there's a much greater sense of danger when he arrives.