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Discussion American and British Balance in Star Wars

Discussion in 'Star Wars: Episode VII and Beyond (Archive)' started by yggdrasil311, Feb 2, 2013.

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  1. JediKnightOB1

    JediKnightOB1 Jedi Master star 5

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    How about a Cockney accent? ;)
     
  2. JediKnightOB1

    JediKnightOB1 Jedi Master star 5

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    Billy Idol as a Sith Lord!!!
     
  3. Episode Swag

    Episode Swag Jedi Knight star 1

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    Yeah I never understood the racism complaint in the prequels. Jar Jar, the Nemoidians and sometimes even Watto are criticized because of their accents. But get this, each one of those characters are freaking ALIENS! They aren't human, and so how can this be racist? If anything, George Lucas made Gungans look bad with Jar Jar, and not people who sound like him. Same with Nemoidians, ect ect.
     
  4. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord Force Ghost star 8

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  5. Episode Swag

    Episode Swag Jedi Knight star 1

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    Yeah I know, that's what I meant when I refered to Watto. It's just that, these creatures are aliens. How it is somehow racist for a fictional alien to come off as bad/annoying/whatever is beyond me. This is despite their culture, mannerisms, accent ect. They are not people, so it cannot be racist IMO.
     
  6. Chrono85

    Chrono85 Jedi Padawan star 1

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    Most (not all) of the actors were cast during auditions in the states, which is why most of the main protagonists have American accents, and it was filmed mostly in the UK, so all of the imperial officers and stormtroopers had to be played by British extras, I would assume, because of union rules. It all just worked out that way by circumstance, and not because of any insidious intentions to make British people bad guys :). Maybe it is just that the British accent is more common in the upper class, or wealthy parts of the galaxy, which would form the core of the Imperial command, and the American accent is more common among the outlying, blue collar folks. Then again, Anakin seemed to have an American/Canadian accent, and then went quasi-British when he became Darth Vader.....At any rate, if any of the OT characters have children in the ST, then those children should at least speak with American accents for consistency.
     
  7. Pro Scoundrel

    Pro Scoundrel New Films Lawgiver & Casual Flyer star 5 Staff Member Manager

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    Agreed, and I'm American.
     
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  8. Pro Scoundrel

    Pro Scoundrel New Films Lawgiver & Casual Flyer star 5 Staff Member Manager

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    Obi-wan/ Vader. :)
     
  9. Count Yubnub

    Count Yubnub Jedi Knight star 4

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    I know--hence "tendency." :)
     
  10. LawJedi

    LawJedi Jedi Master star 4

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    There's a fine line between stereotypes and archetypes. For example, I remember people in 99 arguing that Watto was clearly an Arab stereotype. And another arguing that he was clearly an Italian stereotype. Perhaps its not so much about ethnic stereotypes, as it is basic character archetypes. If anything, making them aliens should take the movie out of time and place.

    Sadly, that's not always the case. Nien Nunb was a goofy, sidekick character who had big cartoony lips and spoke with a Kenyan language, to impersonate an alien language. Nute Gunray is a greedy alien with a name inspired by American conservatives whose voices was assembled by replicating line readings from a Thai actor, to give the impression that Basic wasn't his native language. Why is one considered awesome world building, and the other racial stereotyping? Despite the fact that one is a bad guy, the methods and goals are obviously similar.
     
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