An Open Letter To The Good Folks at LFL

Discussion in 'Literature' started by Trip, Nov 22, 2007.

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  1. The Loyal Imperial Manager Emeritus

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    The "villainous" Empire disappeared in Return of the Jedi, unless you would consider Thrawn, Pellaeon, and Roan Fel to be evil? Yes, there are the odd insane warlords, but the recent trend has pointed towards a more benevolent view of Empire.
  2. SuperSaiyaMan12 Jedi Master

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    Thrawn still acted, at times, like his predecessors. And need I remind you of 'Dark Empire'?
  3. The Loyal Imperial Manager Emeritus

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    Palpatine, Palpatine. I hardly think that Thrawn was intended to be "the source of all evil in the galaxy" as Palpatine and his Empire are often portrayed. Also, would you say that the Empire has been portrayed as villainous in the NJO series? The Sith have always been the main villains of Star Wars, it just happens that they like to take over the Empire from time to time.
  4. SuperSaiyaMan12 Jedi Master

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    The Remnant tried to distant itself as much as it could from the original Empire. Pallaeon himself even said that the current attitude of the Remnant was distancing themselves from Palpatine.

    And...I hate NJO, thank you very much.
  5. The Loyal Imperial Manager Emeritus

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    My point has been made.

    And I quite enjoyed the NJO myself, Legacy even moreso.
  6. IamtheMaster111 Jedi Knight

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    Well, even more to agree with you on.
  7. JediAlly Force Ghost

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    There's one great mystery that needs to be covered, either in a comic or a short story like those printed in the Adventure Journals, Gamers, and Insiders - Soontir Fel's story of how he ended up joining Thrawn and reuniting with his wife.
  8. Excellence Jedi Grand Master

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    It's been done, JediAlley. The Reenlistment of Baron Fel, an unpublished short story by Zahn and Stackpole. NEGTC mentions it, about a year after Pestage got Krennelled. Isard, acting on Thrawn's desire, masterminded his capture. It was right after the Rogues "won a key battle against her," some 7 months after the comics.

    The Rogue Squadron comics were sure to show it if they hadn't been cancelled. :(
  9. JediAlly Force Ghost

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    If the story also tells about his reunion with his wife, then the mystery would be completely solved. But you put in the key word - unpublished. There's no way we can get that story, right?
  10. Excellence Jedi Grand Master

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    Pester the right people with a petition, it can happen. Why not?
  11. Arawn_Fenn Chosen One

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    Well, that one's covered... [face_whistling]
  12. Charlemagne19 Chosen One

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    No offense, The Loyal Imperial but some of us LOVE TIE-Fighter and would hate playing a wussified Empire.

    Let's play it "Brotherhood of Nod" style.

    Imperial Campaign Options!

    FOR BLOWING THE GOOD GUYS UP!
  13. JaySkywalker01 Jedi Master

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    When does this era take place on the calendar? 2000-1000 BBY?
  14. dizfactor Jedi Grand Master

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    It's worth noting that that's the tail end of the 1000 years in question. Kind of scraping the bottom of the barrel at that point.
  15. MercenaryAce Force Ghost

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    I heartily endorse this service and/or product.

    I understand, to a degree, being afraid of trying new things, but it worked so well for Kotor...and we got a 1000 years of war.

    Considering everything Luke did in the three years between episodes 4 and 5, imagine all that happened in 1000 years of war for so many people.

    Also Sith Alchemy is a good way to infuse some more fantasy in the story with changing the tone like the Ewoks stories.
  16. Jmacq1 Force Ghost

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    Yeah, I'm kinda doubting that the Jedi were enlisting children and throwing them onto the battlefield on day 1. Heck, I thought half the point of the "Jedi vs Sith" book was to show just how desperate and beaten-down both sides had become after a 1,000 years of fighting. Don't some of the Jedi express misgivings about the children being there as it is?

  17. AdmirableAckbar Jedi Knight

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    Actually, I believe it was Thrawn's plan, merely put into action by Isard. I recall Fel saying something along the lines of "it was too clever for Isard" or somesuch. Minor detail, but still...
  18. Lord_Hydronium Manager Emeritus

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    The children aren't even fighting in JvS, at least not at first. Most of them get assigned to kitchen duty, and Darovit only goes to the front lines because he has Snapit's lightsaber. It's only when the last battle comes that everyone, soldier, non-combatant, and child alike is armed and sent to the front lines.

    And yeah, Hoth hates it, and only allows it because they're desperate and to keep the Sith from getting Force-sensitive children.
  19. Carnage04 Jedi Grand Master

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    Yeah, I think that DB:pOD had a comment about the Sith starting to think more like Jedi and the Jedi starting to think more like Sith. The War seems to have devolved from an idealistic crusade to an obsession. A good indicator of that was the fact that Farfalla went to "Recruit" Jedi Knights an felt he could bring a good number (200?) to Ruusan. This kind of tell me that...

    A. The Jedi as a whole were done with this whole skirmish. Only those that felt their sole job was to rid the galaxy of evil by destroying the Sith remained. Letting them try to come towards the Core where the full weight of the Republic and Jedi would bear down on them would probably wipe them out easier....but for Hoth it became too personal.
    B. Kaan was foaming at the mouth crazy. He thought if he could crush a ragtag faction of the Jedi on Ruusan the galaxy would be the Brotherhood's for the picking. He seems to have forgotten that they were on the rim somewhere far from Coruscant battling the "Lunatic Fringe" of Jedi. Kaan's group seems to have been fighting Hoth's group for so long that he decided to omit the fact that winning Ruusan wouldn't win the war.
  20. dizfactor Jedi Grand Master

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    I disagree. I think the bulk of both orders was tied up on Ruusan.
  21. QuentinGeorge Force Ghost

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    Dark Forces pretty much says that Kaan has all twenty thousand (or however more remain) on Ruusan with him.

    And for crying out loud Chuck, it's not Hoth who suggests recruiting children. It is Pernicar. And it clearly done under duress, for both of them.

    (Along with Hydro's point that the children are assigned to kitchen duty).
  22. Grey1 Host: 181st Imperial Discussion Group

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    "How could it come to this? We must let children do our kitchen duty! The humanity!"
    :p

    The most interesting thing about this era would be that I don't know anything about it. Zombies?
  23. Spike_Spiegel Former FF Administrator Former Saga Mod

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  24. Guildenstern Jedi Knight

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    where do we get zombies?!
  25. jSarek VIP

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    I feel there is only one word that will serve as an adequate response to this post:

    BRAINS!

    The Empire may have been conceived in the Naboo crisis and born at the end of the Clone Wars, but the Empire's parents started courting during the New Sith Wars.

    While Fel and post-Darksaber Pelly are decent enough folk, Thrawn and the Pelly from that era were definitely pushing on the borders of evil, if not fully ensconced in it. Thrawn's been whitewashed since the original Thrawn Trilogy, given somewhat noble background motives, but some of his actions in The Thrawn Trilogy were definitely not those of a decent being.

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