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Anakin is Darth Vader

Discussion in 'Classic Trilogy' started by IBDR, Jul 5, 2005.

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  1. IBDR

    IBDR Jedi Youngling

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    This is a fact that no one can deny. The idea that I am having a problem with is does the Galaxy know this? Do they know that Anakin, their great hero who prevailed in numerous camapign for the Jedi in the past come to terms and did all that he did, just in a different light of POV than someone like Yoda or Obi Wan would look upon it?

    I feel as though there has to be at least more than Organa in the Senate that notice some sort of relation, though not physically, with Anakin and Darth Vader?

    If not, then who would the masses think this Darth Vader is? Where did he come from?

    One other thing that leaves a tremendous hole to be filled is that if Anakin is renown for being Darth Vader why wouldn't Luke know this, even on the fringes of the Outer Rim?

     
  2. jedi_master_ousley

    jedi_master_ousley Manager Emeritus star 8 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    No one knew that Vader was Anakin. It didn't matter where Vader came from as long as the people obeyed him. Such is oppression.
     
  3. Darth_Falcon

    Darth_Falcon Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I doubt there would be anyone bar the Emperor, Jedi and Bail Organa that know who Darth Vader really is. Maybe a select few from the PT era but very doubtful.
     
  4. IBDR

    IBDR Jedi Youngling

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    If no one knew then how could he be so strong in the way of the Force? Someone had to have thought he was a fallen Jedi or something. Someone had to at least, in the Imperial ranks, seen him perform Force acts. Also those that witnessed the Jedi Purge after the actual destruction of the Temple.
     
  5. Ackbar_The_Great

    Ackbar_The_Great Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Well Tarkin called him an ex-Jedi if I remember correctly so they do know he was a Jedi at one point, but not Anakin Skywalker.
     
  6. Magnotta

    Magnotta Jedi Youngling star 1

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    I think Tarkin might have known that Vader was Anakin. In Shadows of the Empire for instance(the only EU novel I actually liked), Xizor figures out Luke is Vader's sone due to the last name. I'd say then that probably some people in higher power know of Vader/Anakin, but that it's just not common knowledge to the general public. Besides, most people probably never even heard of Anakin Skywalker. I doubt any of the jedi were actually indivudually known to most people, with the exception of maybe Yoda.
     
  7. Darth_Falcon

    Darth_Falcon Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    You're right about Xizor, he knew that Vader's name was Skywalker "a long time ago" and after listening to the Emperors/Vaders ESB conversation, realised Vader, had a son Luke.

    Perhaps in this instance, Xizor with his resources pushed to find information about Darth Vader seems he was Xizors main enemy/rival :confused:
     
  8. AzureAngel2

    AzureAngel2 Chosen One star 6

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    The few people who have to know it do know it! And Vader wants to forget about his old life anyway!
     
  9. generallee5

    generallee5 Jedi Youngling star 3

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    I don't think many people knew. After all, if they did, when Luke was in the Alliance surely someone would come up to him and go "Are you.....Darth Vader's son?"
     
  10. QUI-DON-JINN

    QUI-DON-JINN Jedi Master star 1

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    Does Bail Organa even know Anakin became Darth Vader? From what I remember, Bail knows Anakin was the father of the twins, but when did he find out Anakin had become Vader? Obi-Wan and Yoda know, obviously, but did they tell Bail?

    Just wondering.
     
  11. ForceCloak

    ForceCloak Jedi Youngling

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    'Someone had to at least, in the Imperial ranks, seen him perform Force acts.'

    Well considering he was Force Choking commanders when they failed (actually not sure if they were commanders or not) I would assume many Imperials knew he had Force powers.
     
  12. mr_clark_90

    mr_clark_90 Jedi Youngling star 1

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    most of the people in the galaxy are probably either too stupid or just dont care enough to make a connection between anakin and vader. some people probably thought "huh, whered this vader guy come from?" but then they realized what a huge place the galaxy is and how the emperor can drum up any number of special helpers without alerting the general public. besides, its probably a general belief that anakin died along with the rest of the jedi
     
  13. LORDVIGILANCE

    LORDVIGILANCE Jedi Youngling star 4

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    Besides, most people probably never even heard of Anakin Skywalker. I doubt any of the jedi were actually indivudually known to most people, with the exception of maybe Yoda.

    Never even heard of Ankain? What did the public say about Anakin Skywalker? "The Hero With No Fear"
    I believe in the ROTS novel Anakin speaks of small children playing "Anakin and Obi-Wan" a game where they would play as either Anakin or Obi-Wan.
     
  14. QUI-DON-JINN

    QUI-DON-JINN Jedi Master star 1

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    ". . . and how the emperor can drum up any number of special helpers without alerting the general public. besides, its probably a general belief that anakin died along with the rest of the jedi"

    I would say this is probably close. The Emperor could have stated publically "all the Jedi have been destroyed" thereby allowing Tarkin's comment of "their light has gone out of the galaxy" to be accurate. Apparently there are enough people in the Empire who remember Jedi or those who can use the Force for Tarkin to be able to make a connection between what Vader does (choking subordinates) and Jedi, but not necessarily knowing Vader used to be Anakin or a Jedi.

    In "Tatooine Ghost," Kitster apparently has heard a belief, clear out in Tatooine, by some that Anakin became Darth Vader, but doesn't believe it. In the EU it seems as if some people are aware of Anakin's change.
     
  15. Sebet

    Sebet Jedi Youngling

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    << Never even heard of Ankain? What did the public say about Anakin Skywalker? "The Hero With No Fear" / I believe in the ROTS novel Anakin speaks of small children playing "Anakin and Obi-Wan" a game where they would play as either Anakin or Obi-Wan. >>

    True. If we take the novelisations as canon - and I assume we do, since (in the case of ROTS at least) half the actual story's in there - Anakin and Obi-Wan were living legends in the Republic and most citizens knew about them.

    The RotS was very very good indeed, by the way. I'd recommend it, if there's anyone here who's not read it.
     
  16. Parallax2265

    Parallax2265 Jedi Youngling star 1

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    I think the original plan was for Anakin to endorse Palpatines new Empire if need be, since he was considered the greatest hero of the Republic. But then there was that nasty little incident with the lava and the burning and disfuguring. After that, people just knew that Darth Vader was the Emperor's right hand man, and let's face it, when said right hand can choke you without moving a muscle, you don't really bother to wonder where he came from.

    As for Bail recognizing Anakin as Darth...how? I don't remember him ever being told Anakins new Sith name, and the fact that Anakin gained several inches and couple of pounds with the robotics and the suit probably would have destroyed any physical similarities.
     
  17. DARTHMORDOR

    DARTHMORDOR Jedi Padawan star 4

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    actually I don't think it was a secret. but most people either forgot or did not care. palpitine probibly said at some point that anakin was the last loyal jedi and he has sufferd for his loyality. much like himself(sidious) he has been left scared. the admirals on the death star seem to know he was a jedi. and tarkin holds a deep respect for him as an equal. the best way to explae that is he is familer with the deeds anakin preformed before becoming vader.

    I think over time most people just forgot, never knew, or did not care.

    much like the general population seems to have forgtten the jedi that forgot anakin.
     
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