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Anakin Skywalker: Knight?

Discussion in 'Literature' started by Zorkel567, Jun 18, 2010.

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  1. Zorkel567

    Zorkel567 Jedi Master star 4

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    I know that The Clone Wars establishes Anakin as a Jedi Knight in 22 BBY. Yet the prievious material said he became a Knight sixth months before Revenge of the Sith. What do you guys think of the change? Do you count both as canon? Have you made up an explanation for both? Things like that. I wanted to see what others have been, and are, thinking of the change and what they do.

    For me, I think it happened like this. With the outbreak of the Clone Wars, the Jedi Council found the need for more Knights and so knighted Anakin, as seen in the "Clone Wars" microseries. With that he's now a Knight. But as the Clone Wars progress, they realize Anakin was knighted too early. (I'm reading Gambit: Stealth now and Obi-Wan thinks that.) Only about six months before the Clone Wars, the Jedi Council feels they're winning the war, and can relax a little bit. They feel Anakin grew over the war and needs to be retested. (Jedi Trial) Once he succeeds, they realize he is a true Knight and not long after, Revenge of the With starts.

    That is my idea for now. Anyone else have ideas? How do you feel about the change?
     
  2. Carnage04

    Carnage04 Jedi Knight star 5

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    I'll be honest, I don't have an answer for you. out of all the time lines, The Clone Wars is the one I know the least about. Too many different types of Media (References from pre-PT novels, the PT itself, the original Clone Wars cartoons, the Clone Wars movie, the new Clone Wars cartoons, a variety of Novels set during the period, Star Wars Republic, various one shots set during the PT era, and the Clone Wars comic series. I have not watched too many episodes of the new Clone Wars cartoon and I have ignored the comic series completely so this may have changed.....but I felt that the lack of a real solid sequence of important events really hurts the era.

    Now I come to the point of my post which unfortunately, is sort of hijacking your thread but it isn't something that deserves its own. What is the deal with the "Need for more Knights"? We see Shad mention to Zayne that the order needs more Knights due to the Mandalorian invasion, we see this issue with Anakin Skywalker, Destiny's Way I believe mentions the need for more Knights leading to the ceremony for the NJO crew. I'm confused as to why they would "Need" Knights. It is not as if saying "Poof, you are now a Jedi Knight" suddenly makes a Padawan into something more experienced and powerful than they were before. It may be argued that Knights need to be with their Masters...but we have seen events where Padawans get their own assignments (Anakin escorting Padme in AoTC comes to mind). It may be argued that Knighthood is required to command and lead troops, but the Clone Troopers defer to Anakin at the battle of Jabiim when he is still a Padawan. I can't think of a single reason why the Jedi of any period absolutely "Need" to make new Knights.
     
  3. NelanisGhost

    NelanisGhost Jedi Youngling star 4

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    There was nothing wrong with Anakin's performance. He was an awesome Jedi Knight. Totally loyal and dedicated. He only joined the darkside to help Padme.
     
  4. Cammy_White

    Cammy_White Jedi Youngling star 2

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    To me Anakin was like one of those cops on 'The Wire'. The ones that are fighting the drug war but really don't understand it, they just genuinely enjoy busting heads in the name of something they perceive is good but in actuality are ignorant about.
     
  5. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    There isn't an official explanation yet, but most likely you'll see some sources like Jedi Trial redated to account for the earlier knighting, so that there won't be a conflict there.
     
  6. timmoishere

    timmoishere Force Ghost star 6

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    Is it possible he did something to cause the Council to temporarily demote him so that Jedi Trial's timeline doesn't have to be moved?
     
  7. lord_kyp

    lord_kyp Jedi Youngling

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    I prefer novels more than comics or cartoons. From that standpoint, I'd consider The Clone Wars to be non-canon, regardless of whether it's helmed by Lucas or some other person.

    Having said that, it's pretty obvious that The Clone Wars has no regard for continuity - Karen Traviss left Star Wars for this very reason, after all. So, I'm guessing (as some of you have already done) the "official" knighting will still be part of Jedi Trial but its date IU will be changed to support the comics/cartoons.
     
  8. DarthIktomi

    DarthIktomi Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Yeah, but he killed a lot more people to help Padme. Padme is one person. I can't remember how many kids alone he killed. So he's definitely not living up to the Jedi Code.

    Anyway, this belongs in television.
     
  9. Zorkel567

    Zorkel567 Jedi Master star 4

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    Why? It has to do with Anakin, from the novels, Republic, and also TV Shows. It is not just he show.
     
  10. DarthNidLoc

    DarthNidLoc Jedi Youngling star 3

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    I don't know if it has been confirmed yet but I was under the impression that they were, as other posters have stated, moving most of the early Clone Wars media, the first video game(the vehicle combat one), most of the Republic Series where anakin is still a padawan(until we see him with his ROTS hair), the Gennedy cartoons and the novels set before labryinth of Evil back to the first 6 months of the war.

    Also it has always been my understanding that Jedi Trial happened between seasons of the Gennedy cartoons, the second season has Anakin Knighted in the first episode. The current Clone Wars series happens between that episode and the episode of the Gennedy series were Ghost Hand or Labryrinth of Evil(which give differing lead ups to ROTS.

    Basically we if you move that stuff around, it could work like this.

    First Month of the War
    The CLone Wars game(the Dark Reaper stuff) happens immediately after Anakin gets back from marrying Padme at the end of AOTC.

    Months 2-6 Then the first season Clone Wars series by Gennedy Tartokovsky and early Republic comics stuff like Jabim happen in the first few months of the war. Munnilist and Anakin vs Ventress on Yavin happen before Jabim then the long siege at Jabim.


    After Obi-wan and Alpha are rescued we go right into Yoda: Dark Rendevous and then Jedi Trial and Cestus Deception which happen rather concurrently, this would explain why Anakin is alone in the Temple while Obi-wan is on Ord Cestus and why Anakin is available to accompany Corran's Grandpa Neeja on his mission to aid Freedoms Sons.

    Anakin and Obi-wan return from these missons. Anakin is Knighted.

    Over the next two and a half years of the war.
    Anakin saves a bunch of Jedi as seen in season two of the Gennedy Series. The Battle of Chistophis and Ashoka is given to Anakin as a Padawn happens next. Followed by the New Cartoons and its tie ins.

    Ashoka dies, is knighted, given to another master or whatever they eventually think of to do with her.

    The later Republic Comics were Anakin is already a Knight has Long Hair fights Ventress on Coruscant and goes with Obi-wan and Mace to Boz Pity etc.

    They then only have to straighten out what happened when during the Nelvaan mission in the Genndy Cartoon and Labyrinth of Evil since both give conflict versions of the lead up to ROTS.

    ROTS- the War ends, Order 66, Republic becomes Empire.
     
  11. Ulicus

    Ulicus Lapsed Moderator star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    He was doing pretty well up until that point.

    Well, after the tusken slaughter, anyway.
     
  12. vong333

    vong333 Force Ghost star 5

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    In the end, it dosen't matter, I like all the material and enjoy it. Timeline or no timeline.
     
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