Lit Anakin Solo in the EU

Discussion in 'Literature' started by Force Smuggler, Mar 15, 2013.

  1. Revanfan1 Chosen One

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    This is pretty much my feeling on the matter. There are two completely different characters here who just happen to have the same names.
  2. Solent Force Ghost

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    She knew, and her son would knew. That wouldn´t usually been enough if Dark Horse had thought the Force ghosts would have told them Anakin´s backstory the day after the Endor party. As it was narrated, Anakin jr just knew sr had gone DS not knowing the reasons and became reasonably scared of his name.
  3. JediMara77 Force Ghost

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    He's a Jedi descended from Anakin Skywalker. His burden is going to be great no matter what the name. You might as well just thumb your nose at history and say, "yeah, my name is Anakin, what about it?"
  4. The Supreme Chancellor Jedi Grand Master

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    I think them naming Anakin and him living up to the legend of Anakin Skywalker the Jedi hero would have been amazing. But his premature death and Jacen's fall to the dark side ruined it. Jacen's story arc overshadows his and is much more related to his grandfather, both in and out-of-universe. Imagine how epic it would have been to see that clash of Force powers between Anakin Solo and Darth Caedus?
  5. DigitalMessiah Chosen One

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    Originally, Anakin was Jacen and Jacen was Anakin.
  6. DarthJenari Force Ghost

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    Exactly. Every single one of Vader's major descendants save Ben (That I can remember anyways) has struggled with his legacy at some point, regardless of what his/her name is.
  7. Anakin Solo Reborn Jedi Youngling

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    Anakin Solo is the greatest character from the EU. A character I feel they need to bring back. They killed him off way to soon.
  8. FTeik Force Ghost

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    Not bring him back. Undo his death. The entire LotF-series must be erased from contiunuity.
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  9. Anakin Solo Reborn Jedi Youngling

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    I agree that they should undo from the New Jedi Order series onward, unfortunately, I don't see that happening.
  10. anakinfansince1983 Chosen One

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    As much as I didn't like the fact that Anakin Solo got killed off and for the lamest reason possible, I can't imagine any way of resurrecting him that wouldn't be worse.
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  11. FTeik Force Ghost

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    Uppps, I was thinking of Jacen Solo there. Anakin can stay dead. As far as I'm concerned, there is nothing between TUF and the beginning of the Legacy-comics.

    My apologies for any confusion. [face_blush]
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  12. mattman8907 Jedi Grand Master

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    okay that's confusing.
  13. mattman8907 Jedi Grand Master

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    if i remember right wasn't Anakin during the NJO series being called the next "Luke Skywalker?"
  14. The Supreme Chancellor Jedi Grand Master

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    Yep, but apparently GL saw the character as being too similar to Anakin SKywalker and though that would confuse people. So he had him executed.
  15. JediMara77 Force Ghost

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    According to Pablo, that's not true. Lucasfilm (not known whether it was Lucas specifically or not) said that Anakin's arc was too close to Anakin Skywalker's, and to swap the role with another character. Nothing was said about killing Anakin. That was LucasBooks and Del Rey's choice. They could have switched the arcs and kept Anakin alive.

    http://tosche-station.net/mythbusting-did-george-lucas-order-anakin-solos-death/
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  16. DigitalMessiah Chosen One

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    Anakin's martydom at the hands of George Lucas is an important part of his fan worship though.
  17. Ulicus Lit'ari

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    Still, it was a net-loss.

    If Anakin had remained the "philosopher", I am absolutely convinced the PTB would not have dared to turn him to the dark side in the aftermath of the NJO.
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  18. DigitalMessiah Chosen One

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    I'm not.

    Lucas was not in the loop for LOTF/FOTJ like he was for NJO. Remember, "Vergere was a Sith."

    That they billed up Caedus as the next Vader so much to promote the series, I have absolutely no doubt the editors that "loved" the idea would have been loving it even more if it was Anakin Solo becoming a Sith Lord like his grandfather. It's the legacy of the Force!
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  19. Ulicus Lit'ari

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    Heh. If only Caedus had been the next Vader.

    Turn the last remaining Solo son to the dark and drag Vergere through the mud if you absolutely must... but, for pity's sake, at least give us a truly magnificent, long lasting villain in return.
  20. Solent Force Ghost

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    I don´t see Lucas allowing that, no matter how out of the loop he was. And what would they have called him, Vader 2.0?
    Sith Vergere wasn´t that much of a strech, even in universe we are told she wasn´t right (Luke - Jacen conversation in NJO). I just think as she was, Vergere probably despised Sith for they lack of control. Maybe she was this generation´s Traya?

    They could have still killed Jacen, have Jaina save the day in NJO, and then no LotF because Lucas wouldn´t allow Anakin to become the "hero" (although calling anybody in LotF hero is being very generous).
  21. DigitalMessiah Chosen One

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    He wasn't in the loop. It doesn't matter if he wouldn't allow it, he wouldn't even know about it.

    Wasn't right about what? What Luke said she said, which isn't what she actually said? Because Luke was actually agreeing with her in that scene.


    Tangential rant: for people that get upset about the EU getting trampled by Lucas, I have to ask why the EU bothers even asking Lucas' approval for stuff, when they go out and violate it anyway. Lucas rejected Anakin as the focal character because in the outline it was said "that he is the prophesied one." Lucas felt this was too close to the prequel storyline, that there was a prophesied Anakin, not that he was a hero -- Anakin Skywalker wasn't the hero. Legacy of the Force is the prequel storyline repeated. If he rejected a prophesied Anakin as being too close to the films, why would he allow Anakin's grandson to follow the same exact story as Anakin?

    He rejected the Yuuzhan Vong as exiled extra-galactic Sith because he didn't like the idea of a Sith society -- it didn't fit his idea of the Sith being a cancer that wiped each other out, so this millennia old extra-galactic Sith culture didn't fit his conception of the Sith. What changed for the Lost Tribe? Nothing.

    So why even ask Lucas his opinion or for his approval if you're going to ignore the spirit of the rejection while following the precise rejection itself? I'm sure there has been EU trampled on numerous occasions for precisely this reason.
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  22. Solent Force Ghost

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    The only thing I read from Lost Tribe were the tales by JJM before the first time jump, and I´d say it showed why Sith and society is almost an oximoron. Backstabs, genocides, and so on. How was it in FotJ?

    I´ll reserve any further discussion regarding Vergere´s ideas in TUF until I find that paragraph again. As far as I remember, he didn´t agree with her at all.
  23. DigitalMessiah Chosen One

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    Saying you disagree with someone doesn't mean much if you're actually agreeing with what they said. If Luke swapped out Vergere's name for Yoda, would he be disagreeing with Yoda?
  24. Jedi Ben Chosen One

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    Is that really wanted though? Where a new character is concerned? I'm not really convinced. Though if you're going to have one, you need a reason for why s/he can't be taken out easily and you need a supply of disposable villains too.
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  25. Ulicus Lit'ari

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    No, I suppose you're right, it'd have been awful if LotF had merely been Caedus' origin story, and -- despite the lamentable NJO retconning -- he'd gone on to be a truly marvelous villain to plague our characters well into the future, ala Doctor Doom.
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