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Discussion in 'Prequel Trilogy' started by andrewjvb, Dec 26, 2012.

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  1. andrewjvb

    andrewjvb Jedi Youngling

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    What do you think? Could the prequels be remade cooler with Joaquin Phoenix as Anakin Skywalker? He even looks kind of like Darth at the end of the originals.

    I can just picture this great Jedi Knight falling from grace. Not a cocky little upstart like what's-his-face. He is seduced by his love for Padme; he has to rescue her from the Emperor's clutches by killing his Master, Obi-Wan. He fails.

    The Emperor takes his remains and hooks them up to all kinds of electrodes in the form of his suit, enslaving Anakin Skywalker and unleashing him upon the Jedi in the form of Darth Vader. The first thing the suited Anakin says is not "Nooo!" It is, "What is thy bidding, my Master?"

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    Can't you just picture him fighting alongside Ewan McGregor?
     
  2. windu4

    windu4 Jedi Master star 4

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    I'm pretty certain that these types of threads aren't allowed in the PT but if that isn't the case then yeah....there's no question that Joaquin Phoenix is a stronger actor than Hayden. Then again I hardly think that the choice of actors was what made the Prequel Trilogy the way it is. Hayden did his best with what he had. It's not his fault the script was less than spectacular.
     
  3. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Nightsister of Four Realms star 9 Staff Member Manager

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    No.

    Not at all my vision of what happened, even from 1983.
     
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  4. Narutakikun

    Narutakikun Jedi Knight star 4

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    The prequels are a lost cause. Just forget about them.
     
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  5. Valairy Scot

    Valairy Scot Backpacking One Pack a Day Mod of New Films star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    :rolleyes:

    Thank you, I prefer not to be told to "forget about them" - I like the prequels. Whether you do or not is immaterial to my enjoyment of them.

    And to answer the thread: no. The PT is already made, and not nearly "old" enough to be reimagined.
     
  6. Todd the Jedi

    Todd the Jedi Mod and Soliloquist of SWTV star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    Tell that to Spider-Man.
     
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  7. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Nightsister of Four Realms star 9 Staff Member Manager

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    I don't know enough about Joaquim Phoenix's work but his sneer in those two photos isn't doing it for me. Whatever one's personal opinion of Hayden's Anakin, I see no advantage whatsoever to a sneering PT Anakin.
     
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  8. DRush76

    DRush76 Jedi Master star 4

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    Ditto. As for Joaquin Phoenix as Anakin . . . I see no reason to speculate. I am more than satisfied with Hayden Christensen.
     
  9. andrewjvb

    andrewjvb Jedi Youngling

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    I wanted to post this picture originally, in which you can see how his nature would be towards the other Jedi, a sort of "we can do it" optimism.

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    But look how foolish he looks. He has no inkling of the horror that awaits him on the Dark Side.

    As for the Prequels as they are. No, those aren't Star Wars movies. Sorry.
     
  10. andrewjvb

    andrewjvb Jedi Youngling

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    I mean, good natured is how a Jedi is supposed to be. Especially one as revered as Anakin. He is described as being a top notch Jedi. Not some little self-absorbed jerk. That's not a Jedi. No offense to Haydyn as a person, but that's the character they made.
     
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  11. PiettsHat

    PiettsHat Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Who exactly "revered" Anakin though? At best, Yoda described him as a powerful Jedi and Obi-Wan said he was a good friend. And the Jedi were never flawless, even in the OT -- they lied to Luke and refused to consider the possibility that one could turn back from the Dark Side.

    Plus, I think it's clear that Anakin was never going to be a "top notch Jedi" considering he turns to the Dark Side and betrays the Order. That he had failings in regards to his Jedi teachings was inevitable given that he eventually chooses the path of the Sith.

    I'm a bit confused as to what the purpose of this thread is, though. I don't quite see what your objection to Christensen is -- he played Anakin the way the character was written so I don't really so how substituting Joaquin Phoenix (who was too old for the part anyway and rather short at 5'8") would resolve any of your issues.

    And, truthfully, I disagree with your assessment of the character. Anakin certainly has a large egotistical streak, but that's not all he is either. But to each their own.

    Oh, and the latest picture you posted isn't showing up, just to let you know.
     
  12. Darth_Nub

    Darth_Nub Manager Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Wrong Phoenix

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  13. Valairy Scot

    Valairy Scot Backpacking One Pack a Day Mod of New Films star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    Then why start a discussion thread where you don't accept differing viewpoints? I know this is the internet, but threads are far more interesting when folks discuss, rather than state an opinion seeking only validation for said opinion.
     
  14. LordMortis315

    LordMortis315 Jedi Knight star 4

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    :oops: this thread
     
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    Darth_Kiryan Jedi Master star 4

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  16. TheRevanchist

    TheRevanchist Jedi Knight star 2

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    There is no chance that prequels could be remake in the near future.

    I think that Hayden did a good job, the main problem of the prequels was the directing and the dialogues. Lucas was awful on prequels.

    While there is no doubt that Phoenix is a better actor than Hayden, he is 38 years old, very old to play Anakin.

    I hate remakes!
     
  17. KilroyMcFadden

    KilroyMcFadden Jedi Knight star 3

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    I don't know if there would ever be enough demand for a remake. The PT aren't exactly classic stories that stand the test of time, after all. I can, however, see a day where a re edit of the film may be released without the humor and I suppose it is possible that they may be able to run Hayden's vocals through a sequncer to fix the cheesy delivery he gave and make it appear as if he where not so whiney or hammy. In that spirit, it isa probably possible , via computer, that they could re insert any actor that they wanted to use. if they were going to go through all that trouble, then I suppose it's possible they could use Phoenix... but as someone mentioned earlier the dude is a little too short and little too old, though again, computers could probably fix that.
     
  18. Darth Chiznuk

    Darth Chiznuk Superninja of New Films star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    That's funny because I distinctly remember the Star Wars logo at the beginning of each of those films. Maybe your memory is better than mine though. If you remember what franchise they were from please let us all know.
     
  19. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Nightsister of Four Realms star 9 Staff Member Manager

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    Did you hear the John Williams' Star Wars theme at the beginning of the films too, Chiznuk? Or was I just imagining that? I own the scores somewhere, maybe I should check.
     
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  20. Darth Chiznuk

    Darth Chiznuk Superninja of New Films star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    Gosh, it's been so long the memories are only slowing coming back into my head. I think... I think I have it... Haha, there it is the themes are running through my head as we speak! Gosh darn it, I guess we were right all along it was Star Wars!
     
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  21. -NaTaLie-

    -NaTaLie- Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    The prequels are more Star Wars than Empire Strikes Back :p
     
  22. DarthBoba

    DarthBoba Manager Emeritus star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I'm not locking this thread, but let's keep it to "who would have made a good alternate" instead of debating PT vs. OT vs. personal opinions of the films, okay?
     
  23. Lady_Skywalker87

    Lady_Skywalker87 Jedi Master star 4

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    I'm assuming that you've never seen '30s/ 40's movies then.

    I like Joaquin Phoenix but, every time I watch The Last Crusade or any movie of him I can easily picture River as Anakin the way GL wrote him...lord knows I wouldn't have minded no matter the age ...

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    But I don't think it really matters since people have a problem with the character itself and how he was written... Witch I love all in aspects and Hayden did a fantastic job bringing to life.
     
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  24. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Nightsister of Four Realms star 9 Staff Member Manager

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    This. The issue as I see it was never with the actor who played Anakin. I paid a lot of attention to the casting of Anakin in early 2000 and remember several of the contenders--Leonardo DiCaprio (whether he was ever a serious contender or not, I don't know, but his name got batted around quite a bit), Joshua Jackson, Paul Walker, Ryan Philippe. I had never heard of Hayden until he got cast but when the announcement was made, I watched several episodes of Higher Ground, which was Hayden's only serious commercial work at the time. His character in that show was an angsty, self-centered, melodramatic teenager. Sound familiar? Life as a House came a year later but in it, Hayden also played an angsty, self-centered, melodramatic teenager, and got nominated for a Golden Globe for it.

    Based on posts I've read over the years, I think people did not want Anakin to be an angsty (and yes, whiny), self-centered, melodramatic teenager, and would have had a problem with his being written that way no matter who the actor was.
     
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  25. Trask Ulgo

    Trask Ulgo Jedi Padawan star 3

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    I think the writing hurt Anakin more than the actor.
     
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